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The Quiet Islamic Conquest of Spain
The Gatestone Institute ^ | 9/30/17 | Giulio Meotti

Posted on 10/02/2017 5:37:03 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: metmom

Gentiles do not have an obligation to offer sacrifices.


81 posted on 10/08/2017 5:26:52 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
If a person sees that 613 commandments are too hard, he has no way of going back.

I guess that is why Jesus said...

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Matthew 11:28

82 posted on 10/08/2017 5:28:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

If the question relates to Torah without promoting non-Torah theologies.


83 posted on 10/08/2017 5:35:42 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; metmom; boatbums; Elsie; ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion
Elsie, in post 75, is telling you the truth too. I honestly hope you respond to the truth of Jesus of Nazareth. It is not safe to leave earth without him, but if you do, you have been officially warned, and your eternal destiny, or your eternal destruction is on you bro. Have a nice eternity, wherever it may be. 🔥🙀
84 posted on 10/08/2017 5:40:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

So you demand that people follow the law but exempt yourself?


85 posted on 10/08/2017 5:55:31 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I do not demand anything. G-d demands that Gentiles follow the 7 commandments.


86 posted on 10/08/2017 6:11:01 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Elsie

I have heard of Idaho Falls, and International Falls, and Red Lake Falls, and Thief River Falls and Fergus Falls, and Pagsanjan Falls, and Dodiongan Falls, but I never heard of Iowa Falls. :-)


87 posted on 10/08/2017 6:50:18 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
I do not demand anything. G-d demands that Gentiles follow the 7 commandments.

Can you give me chapter and verse? I mean, anyone can make any wild statement they want, but in order to maintain a certain amount of credibility, one must be able to back up their claims with facts and scripture.
So, where does God say that? Inquiring minds want to know.

88 posted on 10/08/2017 7:01:36 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Genesis 2:16, Tractate Sanhedrin 56b, Rambam, Laws of Kings 9:1, the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner.


89 posted on 10/08/2017 8:27:35 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

Where?

You have Scriptural sources?

Or is this all your own opinion?


90 posted on 10/08/2017 10:04:00 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I gave the sources.


91 posted on 10/08/2017 10:08:41 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; Mark17

Genesis 2:16 is only forbidding eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil by Adam and Eve.

In what way do they apply to all Gentiles?

Does that mean Jews are exempt from that prohibition?

There’s only one source from God given Scripture. The rest is the opinions of man therefore invalid.


92 posted on 10/08/2017 10:08:51 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

“There was a chain of transmission of the Oral Torah after the revelation at Mount Sinai:

From the Lord God to:

1) Moses
2) Joshua
3) Phinehas
4) Eli the Judge and High Priest
5) Samuel the Prophet
6) King David
7) Ahiyah the Prophet
8) Elijah the Prophet
9) Elisha the Prophet
10) Yehoyada the High Priest
11) Zehariah the Prophet
12) Hosea the Prophet
13) Amos the Prophet
14) Isaiah the Prophet
15) Micah the Prophet
16) Joel the Prophet
17) Nahum the Prophet
18) Habakkuk the Prophet
19) Zephaniah the Prophet
20) Jeremiah the Prophet
21) Baruh the Scribe
22) Ezra the Scribe
23) Shimon the Righteous, High Priest and Sage
24-34) The main receivers of the Oral Torah in the following eleven generations are listed by Rambam in his Introduction to the Mishneh Torah
35) In generation 35, Rabbi Yehudah the Prince wrote down the Oral Torah in the Books of the Mishnah.
36-39) In the 36th generation, Rabbi Yohanan wrote down the Jerusalem Talmud. In the 39th generation, the Sage Rav Ashe wrote down the Babylonian Talmud.

This historically well-known sequence proves that the Oral Torah, as recorded in the Mishnah and the Talmud, was transmitted orally from one leading sage to another in an unbroken chain, as continually studied by hundreds of thousands of Jews in every generation, and that the conclusions in these and other books of the Oral Torah are the Word of God-this being the Oral Torah that was given to Moses at Mount Sinai” (The Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, Ask Noah International, 2011, p 44-45)


93 posted on 10/08/2017 10:41:02 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

bttt


94 posted on 10/08/2017 10:51:19 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; metmom; Elsie
Genesis 2:16, Tractate Sanhedrin 56b, Rambam, Laws of Kings 9:1, the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner.

Genesis 2:16? You are using Genesis 2:16? Are you kidding me bro? Genesis 2:16? Sorry, I ain’t buying it. I don’t even begin to agree, that Genesis 2:16 has anything whatsoever to do with God’s laws concerning Jews, Gentiles, or anyone in between.
As far as those other names, I have never heard of them. What scriptures did they write? None you say? Ok, if they didn’t write any scripture, I don’t care what they think about anything, especially spiritual issues. Since I never heard of any of them, I can only guess, that true, born again Christians have infinitely more spiritual understanding, than all of them put together. I would say there is a better than even chance, that 2nd Corinthians 4:4 applies to them. Big time applies to them. 😀🇵🇭🙃
I hope you enjoy your eternity. It’s going to last far too long, to make any mistakes. Don’t make any mistakes bro. Don’t trust anyone who was not directly inspired by God, to write scripture. The other guys may or may not know what they are talking about. If it was NOT written by God, I won’t have anything to do with it. Neither should you. Also, as previously mentioned, if you don’t want any opposition, don’t post to an open forum. 🤗

95 posted on 10/08/2017 12:27:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
Youy SHOULD have!

It comes right after...


96 posted on 10/08/2017 2:23:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CondorFlight
Time for a new El Cid.

From where. The fertility rate among native Spaniards is about 1.2.

97 posted on 10/08/2017 2:28:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Mark17
Are you kidding me bro? Genesis 2:16?


I'm sure that he meant to include verse 17.

 

Genesis 2:16-17

16And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

 

Sounds like a mighty SPECIFIC command to me; for it says NOTHING about descendants.

 

ADAM: God; what's a descendant?

GOD:    Go to sleep; little Man; and I shall make you a help meet.

ADAM:What's a help meet?

GOD:    You'll learn.

 

98 posted on 10/08/2017 2:34:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

“G-d demands that Gentiles follow the 7 commandments.

Nah, He doesn’t in any inspired Scripture.

You are advocating following the uninspired words of men.


99 posted on 10/08/2017 5:12:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Hrvatski Noahid; metmom; boatbums
You are advocating following the uninspired words of men.

You are correct AMPU. I NEVER follow the words of uninspired men. What happens if they say something that is wrong? What happens if they say one does NOT have to be born again, to see the kingdom of God? You can see where this could cause serious problems.
You know, at one time, we all followed the uninspired words of men. It would have led us to a very fiery and horrible eternity. That’s not good enough for me. That is as much a false religion, as trying to keep the 7 Noah laws. Yes, I said it. My opinion is, it’s a false religion, and instead of getting them their eternal portion in the future world to come, it will earn them their portion in the lake that burns with brimstone. That’s not cool, literally. I will have none of it. 😀😆😄🇵🇭

100 posted on 10/08/2017 6:16:39 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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