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The Quiet Islamic Conquest of Spain
The Gatestone Institute ^ | 9/30/17 | Giulio Meotti

Posted on 10/02/2017 5:37:03 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: PGR88

“the people of Europe may find their independence - and their spine”

But unless they find their children, the amount of spine is irrelevant.


61 posted on 10/05/2017 4:46:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It cracked because it was not tanned right!

Constant renewing of things covered in this is what caused the gentle Nauga to go extinct: excessive hunting.

Man once again learned the lesson that the unique beasts could have been farmed; but NO!; they had to go the way of the Passenger Pigeon and the DODO!!

62 posted on 10/05/2017 4:48:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
This is my very last post on this subject.

Rats!

I was hoping for a rational discussion of the subject.

Oh well...

63 posted on 10/05/2017 4:53:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
A wise man said that I am wasting my time discussing christianity.

Like THIS guy??

He was into LAW a lot...


Luke 18:9-14

 

9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable:

10"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other people-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'

13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'

14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."

64 posted on 10/05/2017 4:56:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

The Seven Laws of the Children of Noah are the minimum for a healthy culture. Any culture that abandons those Seven Laws is going to be brutal and short-lived, regardless of whether its members nominally embrace Christianity.

Theological disputations are pointless in a collapsing culture.


65 posted on 10/05/2017 5:03:24 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Elsie

Elsie, you raise a good point.

The poor creatures were hunted almost to extinction!

Still, my noahide bible cover was beautiful and functional, but of course temporary- just like the noahide commands were supplanted as God reavealed His prophecy in history... and particularly in Christ.


66 posted on 10/05/2017 6:56:31 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: marshmallow

What’s happening to this entire world is disgusting, disheartening and scary. The Left and the Muslims are ushering in hell on Earth.


67 posted on 10/06/2017 9:43:31 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Yulee

Now the Muslims use those oil dollars to bribe the deep state.


68 posted on 10/06/2017 9:48:06 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

613 Jewish commandments?

That sounds quite demanding. How do you remember that many and how they apply to day to day life?


69 posted on 10/06/2017 9:50:48 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

It is extremely hard to follow the 613 Jewish commandments. Jews have a Divine commandment to study them and to know all their details. This is why non-Jews are not obligated to convert. One cannot undo an Orthodox conversion. If a person sees that 613 commandments are too hard, he has no way of going back.


70 posted on 10/06/2017 11:36:03 PM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid; Elsie; metmom; boatbums; aMorePerfectUnion
One cannot undo an Orthodox conversion. If a person sees that 613 commandments are too hard, he has no way of going back.

I disagree bro. Imagine that. All he has to say, is “I go back,” and he goes back. It’s quite simple really.
By the way, I also disagreed with your plan to have an eternal portion in the future world to come. You say you don’t need to be perfect, but others have shown you that you do. Either you are in a bit of a pickle, or we are going to have to reach our eternal portion in the future world to come, a different way. Oh my goodness, being as I am from California, I just had a Eureka moment. (Eureka, California. Population 27,226) I just realized that not one, single, solitary person on earth, can keep ANY law, let alone, six hundred and some. So, because of my Eureka moment, I have come to the conclusion, that if you want an eternal portion in the future world to come, you better figure out a different way of doing it. Keeping laws, just ain’t gonna cut the mustard. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand? I understand it perfectly, but then again, I have spiritual understanding. 👍🇵🇭😀🙀

71 posted on 10/07/2017 6:03:47 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I appreciate your disagreement. Torah is eternal. I did not write it :)


72 posted on 10/07/2017 9:14:21 PM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
I appreciate your disagreement. Torah is eternal. I did not write it :)

No, it was written by God, through the prophets. It tells about the coming Messiah, starting in Genesis 3:15, as God spoke directly to Adam and Eve, before they got their walking papers.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, again, others have told you, that you are not perfect. Since God requires perfection, in order for us to have our eternal portion of the future world to come, what on earth are you going to do? The only other alternative, is a really bad eternity in a burning lake of fire 🔥 My guess is, you probably don’t look forward to that, but it’s coming, sure as the day is long. That brings me to the safe alternative. Jesus of Nazareth, the one you claim that started a new religion. I don’t believe he did, in fact, I believe he was the one who spoke to Adam and Eve in Gen 3:15, before kicking them out of the garden. I believe God came to earth in the form of a man, to live the perfect life that we can’t, and save us from ourselves. I am pretty sure you don’t accept that. So be it. We have a choice. We can accept him as savior NOW, or face him as judge later. You can willingly bow the knee to him now, or unwillingly bow the knee to him later.
Where ever you spend eternity, is entirely up to you, but one thing you can never claim that no one ever told you the truth. I hope you enjoy your eternity bro. I know I will. 😆😄👍
I suspect we may have to agree to disagree on this issue. So be it bro.

73 posted on 10/07/2017 10:23:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: metmom; boatbums; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone
Meant to include you in post 73. 🤗
74 posted on 10/07/2017 10:26:38 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
Up there in post 73
(I assume you were talkin' to ME?)
You've stated quite well,
how to avoid Hell.
It's JESUS that sets us all free!



75 posted on 10/08/2017 4:20:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
This is my very last post on this subject.

Apparently not...

#70
#72

76 posted on 10/08/2017 4:23:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

So how do you keep the Law without a consecrated, ordained priesthood to perform the proper sacrifices and without a consecrated temple at which to do them?


77 posted on 10/08/2017 4:59:56 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Elsie

I will answer sincere questions about Torah. But I will not waste my time on debates.


78 posted on 10/08/2017 5:17:53 AM PDT by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Mark17
The sign at the edge of town (similar to this) says....
 
 
    You've found it!!!
 
 
 

79 posted on 10/08/2017 5:25:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
I will answer sincere questions about Torah.

What criteria do you use to determine sincerity?

80 posted on 10/08/2017 5:26:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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