Those Blasted Presbyterians: Reflections on Independence Day

Don Sweeting ^ | 4 July 2014 | Don Sweeting

[crz]

Tell it to a Scot.

Of course then you are as you say.

And I wont get over it.

[fishtank]

[Guenevere]

You needn’t get rude and insult people

I am well aware of the Scots Irish......these Scots migrated to Northern Ireland about 200 years ago

They are Scottish

Why are you so sensitive about this?

My own great grandfather was from Scotland......he settled in the Southern Appalachians

Most folks use either or....Scotch/Irish/ Scots Irish.....

[elpadre]

Signers of the Declaration of Independence:

Religious Affiliation
Episcopalian/Anglican 32 57.1%
Congregationalist 13 23.2%
Presbyterian 12 21.4%
Quaker 2 3.6%
Unitarian or Universalist 2 3.6%
Catholic 1 1.8%
TOTAL 56 100%

[crz]

Scotch is a derogatory term. Especially to the Scots. If anyone uses that term around me they will get reminded of it and if they persist they get a retort of the derogatory term fitting their ethnic heritage.

[boatbums]

Amen! I pray America will always stand out as the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Thomas Jefferson 3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence:

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event." --Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

[Elsie]

Those Blasted Presbyterians: Reflections on Independence Day

They've made a LOT of gorge rise over the years!!

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

[Elsie]

Sad to see that much of Presbyterianism has gone South, no longer looking to Scripture as literally being the word of God and supreme standard.

See! I told you so!!

[Elsie]

Mormon 0.0%

[Elsie]

...I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; ...

Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD

 

[HarleyD]

Our motto is to understand scripture like a Presbyterian but to preach and have potlucks like a Baptist. :O)

[Hawthorn]

>> Tell it to a Scot <<

Absolutely. I’ll tell him that if he doesn’t want to be called “Scotch” to his face, then he should stay away from the Southern USA. ‘Cause that’s what us proud rednecks are gonna call him.

(And most of us, by the way, are direct descendants of Ulster Scots.)

[Guenevere]

Yes we are, and proud of it!

[crz]

Oh ya I bet you will Johnny.

[Gamecock]

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

There is no higher endorsement for the validity of the Presbyterian corner of Christianity.

[Elsie]

ouch...

[AnalogReigns]

For everyone bemoaning the fall of Presbyterianism, let us not forget the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) pcanet.org and the EPC (Evangelical Presbyterian Church) epc.org and (in the Carolinas) the ARP (Associate Reformed Presbyterian) arpchurch.org, fully Presbyterian denominations which have not bowed the knee to the Baals of Political Correctness, and are still faithful to holy Scripture.

Something over 10% or 15% of Presbyterian churches nation-wide are in these denominations, and they are growing.

The mainline PCUSA denomination, in contrast, is dying, fast.

[Gamecock]

Indeed.

I am currently in the ARP, but the PCA still pulls strong in my heart.

Oh, long time no see! Hope all is well!