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Those Blasted Presbyterians: Reflections on Independence Day
Don Sweeting ^ | 4 July 2014 | Don Sweeting

Posted on 07/04/2017 11:09:29 AM PDT by Gamecock

“We are subject to the men who rule over us, but subject only in the Lord. If they command anything against him, let us not pay the least regard to it.”
Book Four, Calvin’s Institutes

“I fix all the blame of these extraordinary proceedings upon the Presbyterians.”
So one colonist loyal to King George wrote to friends in England.

Around the same time, Horace Walpole spoke from the English House of Commons to report on these “extraordinary proceedings” in the colonies of the new world. “There is no good crying about the matter,” he said. “Cousin America has run off with the Presbyterian parson, and that is the end of it.”

The parson of which he spoke, was John Witherspoon—a Presbyterian minister, as well as a descendant of John Knox. At the time, Witherspoon was president of the College of New Jersey (now Princeton). He was also the only clergyman to sign the Declaration of Independence.

From the English perspective, the American revolution was often perceived as a “Presbyterian Rebellion.” And its supporters were often disdained as “those blasted Presbyterians.”

The Presbyterian Revolution
Most American Christians are unaware of the fact that the American Revolution, as well as the new American state, was greatly shaped by Presbyterians and the Calvinism that was at its root. Some modern-day Presbyterians have moved light years away from the convictions of these early colonists.

An estimated three million people lived in the colonies at the time of the Revolutionary War. Of that number, “900,00 were of Scotch or Scotch-Irish origin, 600,000 were Puritan English, while over 400,000 were of Dutch, German Reformed and Huguenot descent. That is to say, two thirds of our Revolutionary forefathers were trained in the school of Calvin.” (Carlson, p. 19)

As one historian puts it, “When Cornwallis was driven back to ultimate retreat and surrender at Yorktown, all of the colonels of the Colonial Army but one were Presbyterian elders. It is estimated that more than one half of all the soldiers and officers of the American Army during the Revolution were Presbyterian.” (Carlson, p. 16)

To the man, Presbyterian clergy joined the Colonialist cause. It was said that many of them led the Revolution from the pulpit. In doing so, they paid a heavy price for their support for independence. Many lost family members or their own lives. Some had their churches burned to the ground.

The Presbyterian Drive
We forget that many of the early American colonists had left England precisely because Presbyterian Christianity was rejected. After its brief reign as the established church through the English Civil War and the work of the Westminster Assembly, Britain returned to Anglicanism. Thousands of non-conforming Presbyterian ministers were then ejected from their churches. Some, such as the Covenanters, were martyred in a period that came to be known as “the killing times.” Rigid laws of conformity drove many to seek a better life somewhere else. After 1660, many Presbyterians began to make their way to the colonies in North America. It was these individuals who brought a new strength to the colonies as they inched their way forward towards independence.

They had little loyalty, and often outright hostility, to the crown of England. They were armed with the theology of John Calvin, mediated through John Knox, and solidified during the English Civil war. It was a theology which devalued the divine right of human kings, and elevated the worth and dignity of the individual under God. This theology shaped the early American understanding of civil liberty.

It shaped our founding fathers. The idea of human equality which influenced John Locke, who in turn, influenced our founding fathers, was learned from the Puritans. Locke’s father had been on Cromwell’s side during the English Civil war.

It also shaped the general population under the influence of the Great Awakening. The Great Awakening was a massive 18th century religious revival that shook the colonies. It was promoted by preachers such as Gilbert Tennent and George Whitfield who travelled up and down the coast calling for a return to a robust Christian and Biblical faith. Emphasizing the new birth and a Calvinist theology, the Great Awakening had an immense influence on colonial sentiments in the generation just preceding the American Revolution.

Consider then, some of what was at work in the American consciousness preceding the revolution. There was the memory of their horrid experience in England. There was the worry that Anglicans would establish this same kind of church in the colonies. There was a persistent fear of the imposition of bishops who were viewed as “holy monarchs,” (monarchy in any form was considered bad)! There was a belief in the absolute sovereignty of God. God alone is Lord of all and the author of liberty. There was a corresponding belief in the absolute equality of individuals (king and peasant, clergy and laity) under God’s law. There was the belief that no human should be entrusted with absolute power, given our radically fallen human nature. There was a belief that there should be a separation of powers in any new government that is established. And because of their experience in England, there was the belief that religious freedom and freedom of conscience should be respected.

In other words, for these Presbyterians, liberty is affirmed, but it is not an absolute liberty. It is always to be lived out under the sovereign creator God. It was this theology, a theology rooted, not just in Calvin, but in the Bible, which ultimately gave the colonialist the will to resist.

The Presbyterian Legacy
So this year, as we celebrate our independence once again, and as we think of early American courage, and the genius of our founding fathers, let us not forget those blasted Presbyterians who sought to understand liberty in light of the Bible. A liberty which conceived of a nation and its entire government under God.

Sources: Our Presbyterian Heritage, Paul Carlson (Elgin: David C. Cook, 1973)Presbyterians: Their History and Beliefs, Walter L. Lingle and John W. Kuykendall, (Atlanta: John Knox Press, 1988), The Emergence of Liberty in the Modern World, Douglas F. Kelly, (Phillipsburg, New Jersey: P&R Publishing, 1992)


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To: Hawthorn

Tell it to a Scot.

Of course then you are as you say.

And I wont get over it.


21 posted on 07/04/2017 4:04:25 PM PDT by crz
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To: Gamecock

22 posted on 07/04/2017 5:54:34 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: crz

You needn’t get rude and insult people

I am well aware of the Scots Irish......these Scots migrated to Northern Ireland about 200 years ago

They are Scottish

Why are you so sensitive about this?

My own great grandfather was from Scotland......he settled in the Southern Appalachians

Most folks use either or....Scotch/Irish/ Scots Irish.....


23 posted on 07/04/2017 7:15:08 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Gamecock

Signers of the Declaration of Independence:

Religious Affiliation
Episcopalian/Anglican 32 57.1%
Congregationalist 13 23.2%
Presbyterian 12 21.4%
Quaker 2 3.6%
Unitarian or Universalist 2 3.6%
Catholic 1 1.8%
TOTAL 56 100%


24 posted on 07/04/2017 7:34:16 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Guenevere

Scotch is a derogatory term. Especially to the Scots. If anyone uses that term around me they will get reminded of it and if they persist they get a retort of the derogatory term fitting their ethnic heritage.


25 posted on 07/04/2017 9:31:22 PM PDT by crz
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To: Gamecock
Amen! I pray America will always stand out as the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Thomas Jefferson 3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence:

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event." --Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.

26 posted on 07/04/2017 9:39:12 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Gamecock; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy
Those Blasted Presbyterians: Reflections on Independence Day

They've made a LOT of gorge rise over the years!!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”


27 posted on 07/05/2017 4:50:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Sad to see that much of Presbyterianism has gone South, no longer looking to Scripture as literally being the word of God and supreme standard.

See! I told you so!!


28 posted on 07/05/2017 4:53:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: elpadre

Mormon 0.0%


29 posted on 07/05/2017 4:55:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
...I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; ...





Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

30 posted on 07/05/2017 4:57:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock; daniel1212

Our motto is to understand scripture like a Presbyterian but to preach and have potlucks like a Baptist. :O)


31 posted on 07/05/2017 6:07:22 AM PDT by HarleyD (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left.)
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To: crz; Guenevere

>> Tell it to a Scot <<

Absolutely. I’ll tell him that if he doesn’t want to be called “Scotch” to his face, then he should stay away from the Southern USA. ‘Cause that’s what us proud rednecks are gonna call him.

(And most of us, by the way, are direct descendants of Ulster Scots.)


32 posted on 07/05/2017 6:34:47 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

Yes we are, and proud of it!


33 posted on 07/05/2017 6:58:56 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Hawthorn

Oh ya I bet you will Johnny.


34 posted on 07/05/2017 7:46:25 AM PDT by crz
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To: Elsie

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

There is no higher endorsement for the validity of the Presbyterian corner of Christianity.


35 posted on 07/05/2017 10:43:39 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

ouch...


36 posted on 07/06/2017 2:53:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock; All
For everyone bemoaning the fall of Presbyterianism, let us not forget the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) pcanet.org and the EPC (Evangelical Presbyterian Church) epc.org and (in the Carolinas) the ARP (Associate Reformed Presbyterian) arpchurch.org, fully Presbyterian denominations which have not bowed the knee to the Baals of Political Correctness, and are still faithful to holy Scripture.

Something over 10% or 15% of Presbyterian churches nation-wide are in these denominations, and they are growing.

The mainline PCUSA denomination, in contrast, is dying, fast.

37 posted on 07/06/2017 2:33:21 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: AnalogReigns

Indeed.

I am currently in the ARP, but the PCA still pulls strong in my heart.

Oh, long time no see! Hope all is well!


38 posted on 07/06/2017 7:00:27 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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