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The Carnage of Divorce
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 06-29-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/29/2017 7:47:51 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: erkelly

70th decade?! You’re 700?!


41 posted on 06/29/2017 1:58:39 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ravenwolf

Oh. Wow.

Ok, Let me go back a step. Give me a chance to process this.

Thessalonians came to mind, but not Matthew.


42 posted on 06/29/2017 2:21:05 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: neverevergiveup

Does that “never get[ting] married” include not having children? I ask because I can’t imagine children of a couple who live together outside of marriage with an easy legal out aren’t in such a great situation, either.


43 posted on 06/29/2017 3:52:42 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Nifster

It really helps to read the whole article:

“Disclaimer: Not everyone who is divorced came to be so in the same way. ..... Still others were physically endangered during the marriage. This essay is not to be construed as a general condemnation of all who are divorced. Rather, it is a heartfelt plea that amidst today’s divorce culture we count the full cost of divorce and that we remember that marriage is first and foremost about what is best for children.”


44 posted on 06/29/2017 4:00:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Nifster

Oh grow up.

The caveat was included but you want even more?

Methinks someone doth protest too much.


45 posted on 06/29/2017 4:06:49 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: Salvation

When we were at our lowest I used CS Lewis “We have no right to happiness” from “God in the Dock” as a springboard for talking about what was REALLY going on.

Our thirtieth anniversary is next month.


46 posted on 06/29/2017 4:12:27 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: arthurus

Wonderful, prayers for him.


47 posted on 06/29/2017 4:14:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Trillian

You are welcome! Enjoy~


48 posted on 06/29/2017 4:15:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: papertyger

Congratulations!


49 posted on 06/29/2017 4:17:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodnesswins
Well...yeah....that one is pretty obvious

Not necessarily. "Constructive Abandonment" that is, the abandonment, actively or passive aggressively ;^) of the marriage bed also counts.

Some spouses are perfectly willing to live with you as long as it's on their terms.

50 posted on 06/29/2017 4:20:16 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: Salvation

You know, it’s funny. When I was growing up, it never occurred to me that my parents were doing anything out of line. But as I got older I started to review some of the things they had done and the effect those things had on me.

While I’m bound to honor my parents, if they weren’t my parents, I wouldn’t give them the time of day.

And I always tell people with children who are thinking of divorce “Be VERY careful with how you treat your children, one day you will answer to an adult for it.”


51 posted on 06/29/2017 4:42:42 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: EDINVA

“Does that “never get[ting] married” include not having children?”

I think I did a poor job saying what I was trying to say. I value marriage and family very, very much, which is why I made the comment about divorce. If two people truly loved one another, and especially if they’ve had children together, divorce will surely leave emotional scars. Sometimes those scars are so deep that life is never the same. On the other hand, sometimes people scar each other in marriage. It’s sad either way.


52 posted on 06/29/2017 6:05:20 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Salvation

Why is divorce so high in the bible belt?


53 posted on 06/29/2017 6:10:13 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: LibertarianLiz
Someone who is in the throes of addiction is not capable of keeping their marriage vows and indeed it may be argued that they were incapable of making valid vows in the first place.

But most divorces are not about that.

Mostly they are about people not wanting to put in the effort to stay married. There might be some work involved or they might have to (gasp!) actually change a habit or two.

Marriage is about putting someone else's needs above your own wants. It is not for the weak or faint of heart.

54 posted on 06/29/2017 6:17:13 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Coleus
Because many of them don't follow the Bible?

Then there is the other side of it. They actually get married.

The divorce rate is zero if you never get married in the first place.

55 posted on 06/29/2017 6:37:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: neverevergiveup

A reasonable point when divorce is inevitable — and not involving children in their vulnerable years.

Welcome to FR.


56 posted on 06/29/2017 10:55:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Salvation

>> Many [children of divorce] were surprised that anyone was interested or even cared about what they thought or had experienced.

The reason is obvious, and the impact heartbreaking.

Looks to be a good read regardless of circumstances.

Any thoughts on related passages from the NT?


57 posted on 06/29/2017 11:10:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: papertyger
I used CS Lewis “We have no right to happiness” from “God in the Dock” as a springboard ...

My mantra for everything from marriage to motherhood to Cub Scout camp is, "Tough enough." My mother was, my grandmother was, and I am. And it looks like my daughters are, too. (Not sure about the 5-year-old ;-).

Congratulations on your endurance. My 30th anniversary will be in 2019.

58 posted on 06/30/2017 7:45:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Golden Rule. Just that.)
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To: Salvation

bkmk


59 posted on 07/04/2017 12:58:53 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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