Posted on 06/09/2017 10:03:10 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Americans know that in 1492 Christopher Columbus "sailed the ocean blue," but how many know that in the same year the heroic Catholic monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella conquered the Moors in Grenada? Americans would also probably recognize 1588 as the year of the defeat of the Spanish Armada by Francis Drake and the rest of Queen Elizabeth’s pirates. It was a tragedy for the Catholic kingdom of Spain and a triumph for the Protestant British Empire, and the defeat determined the kind of history that would one day be taught in American schools: Protestant British history.
As a result, 1571, the year of the battle of Lepanto, the most important naval contest in human history, is not well known to Americans. October 7, the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, celebrates the victory at Lepanto, the battle that saved the Christian West from defeat at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.
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The monarchs wanted a unified country with one faith; conversion was acceptable to them. They didn’t want to exterminate people who wouldn’t get with the program; they just had to leave.
When word spread, it hastened the exit of the Jews.
Blah, blah, blah.
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God delivered king Ahab in battle as well, bad as he and the northern kingdom was. The southern kingdom was where the the temple was.
God used Egypt to preserve Abraham, Israel, and the infant Son of God.
Blah, blah, blah yo seff. lol
As long as they remained Jews the Inquisition had no jurisdiction over them. So they didn't go after Jews, per se, they went after heresy within the Catholic Church.
Now if you want to talk about the state policy of the Spanish crown toward Jews, how Torquemada influenced it, and how it caused many to feign conversion in the first place, ok, but that's a different story from the Inquisition proper.
And in that list of titles “God”, or “Jesus Christ “ is seen.......nowhere.
But “our lady”, got some headline. Oh yeah.
Priorities.......who is getting top billing? Who deserves top billing?
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75 years ago many of the descendants of those Jews found refuge in Spain as many European countries murdered their Jewish populations; since unification they’ve come a long way.
In hindsight it was mild compared to alternatives; the British did the same with the Acadian populations in the Maritime Provinces in Canada, and nobody even cares. Britain wouldn’t accept a permanent fifth column in territory they claimed; Spain wouldn’t either and decided they’d rather be safe than sorry.
How were the Jews of Spain a “5th Column”?
Jews that go caught pretending to be Christians, so they good stay in the area, were tortured and sometimes killed by Thomas of Torquemada on behest of the monarchy.
Nice. But that does change what happened to them in the past.
They were concerned that Spanish Jews would support a return of the Muslims.
You are minimizing it by saying they “pretended to be Christians”. They agreed to be baptized and to live as Catholics, didn’t they? Knowing, presumably, what the penalties were for Catholics found guilty of heresy?
So blame Ferdinand and Isabella and blame Torquemada for their policies against the Jewish communities. Don’t blame the Inquisition as a whole, which was only doing its job as an internal watchdog of the faith.
The Catholic church claims to have jurisdiction over everyone whether they like it or not.
Not in ecclesiastical law it doesn’t. Find me a pair of Jews, Protestants, or even Orthodox and try to get a case heard before a Catholic marriage tribunal.
No Jew can be charged or convicted of heresy. Only a Catholic can. That is just how ecclesiastical law has always worked.
Right here, in black and white from a scholar who works in this field:
https://books.google.com/books?id=nzJ5340UZKMC&pg=PA212#v=onepage&q&f=false
“Contrary to general myth, the Inquisition never had any specific jurisdiction over Jews”
Catholicism does not recognize a marriage that is not done by a Catholics priest as valid.
That means they consider everyone not married as Catholics by a Catholic priest to be living in sin.
Not to mention the claim that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic church. They are claiming to be the sole means by which people can get to heaven.
Both those things are claiming jurisdiction over everyone on the planet.
That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me.
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