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Jesuit Leader: No One Recorded Jesus' Words on Marriage, It's 'Nuanced,' Never 'Black and White'
CNS News ^ | April 3,2017 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/04/2017 12:07:48 AM PDT by Robwin

Although the Catholic Church has taught since its inception that marriage is between one man and one woman for life, the new superior of the worldwide Jesuit religious order, Fr. Arturo Sosa Abascal, claims that despite Jesus Christ's words about marriage (Matthew 19: 3-9), "no one had a recorder to take down his words," which must be "contextualized," and that doctrine implies a "hardness" like "stone" while "human reality is much more nuanced" and "never black and white."

Fr. Absacal, from Venezuela, was elected superior of the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, in October. The Catholic religious order for men dates back to the year 1540, when it was founded by St. Ignatious of Loyola. It is the largest religious order in the Catholic Church. Although the Jesuits for centuries were considered the shock troops of the Vatican and their superior dubbed the "Black Pope" because of his influence, the religious order has grown very liberal, modernist over the last 60 years. Rev. Jorge Bergoglio, the current Pope Francis, is a Jesuit.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: abascal; blasphemy; catholics; heresy; homosexualagenda; jesuits; marriage
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To: SkyPilot

Nine Jesuit Priests walk into a bar....


41 posted on 04/04/2017 5:32:15 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Robwin

Jesuits have always been the most vile order of the RCC ever since their founding.

That they have plenty of supporters here on FR shows how brainwashed people are. One of my former college roommates is now a Catholic Priest. That he was gayer than a goose was no question then as now. That he’s now a Jesuit seems par for the coarse.


42 posted on 04/04/2017 5:39:37 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: PIF
When the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, the Scripture cited in those texts was exactly the text we have today in Proverbs, Job, Psalms, and Ecclesiastes.

That degree of accuracy has never happened for any other ancient text or book in history. I was raised a Roman Catholic, where I was taught Genesis was a compilation of myths, and Revelation was a bunch of psychotic visions. If the beginning and the end were not true, what about the books in the middle? Yup, it turns out they taught that all of the rest of the Bible was a squishy bunch of Play Dough that could be molded any way you wanted.

The Bible is LITERALLY true. It is divinely inspired. It is protected and sealed by God Himself. If one does not believe in the authority of Scripture, that person has nothing. No faith. No salvation. No truth.

43 posted on 04/04/2017 5:40:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

A ‘gay’ bar no doubt.


44 posted on 04/04/2017 5:42:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: PIF

So you’re proud of swallowing the lies generated to delegitimize The Word of God. Typical


45 posted on 04/04/2017 5:44:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Luircin
The only possible argument I see is whether adultery is an acceptable reason for remarriage of the wronged partner....

In the time of Christ, adultery on the part of the woman would render the husband a widdower so remarriage posed no problem.

46 posted on 04/04/2017 5:49:29 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Robwin
Jesus never said, "Don't stick a pin in your eye," either. It's common sense.

He did say that He and the Father are One. And the Father in Geneis defined marriage. No nuance about it.

47 posted on 04/04/2017 6:05:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: PIF
What was actually said can only be understood in the original language and only then if the reader understands the culture from which the language arose ... unfortunately, no one remembers that culture ...

We believe in a Living God, whose Holy Spirit informs the affairs of men. Technology obsolesces, but God does not.

48 posted on 04/04/2017 6:12:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Robwin

The Jesuits, an order founded to combat Protestantism, has become Protestant.


49 posted on 04/04/2017 6:27:40 AM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Antoninus

No, they’re your moral degenerates. Don’t try to hang them around our necks.


50 posted on 04/04/2017 6:29:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Robwin

Genesis. And the Wedding at Cana was not for two fags.


51 posted on 04/04/2017 7:47:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kaehurowing; SkyPilot

Yep, that’s how it began.


52 posted on 04/04/2017 8:20:47 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Robwin
Yeah, about that....for what it's worth? Romans 1:18-31 speaks to the "nuanced, never black and white" path this "leader" describes and it could not be more clear or more black and white.

By removing God's definitions and replacing them with our own, we are giving in to our willful self-determination that opens the door to our wicked self-deception.

Satan plays our egos so well that, without God's Truth as a reference, we easily believe our own sh!t smells like roses and must be what God was actually saying all along.

Uh oh..."Welcome to the land of woeful self-destruction", where you really can have it YOUR way...well, for as long as your time lasts, that is, fellow short timers.

What we have seen in our times is how those who turn away from God and exchange Truth for a lie always become sexually perverted.

Romans 1 tells that God gives them over to the lusts, dishonor, uncleanliness and vile affections of their reprobate minds, to go against nature as they please on their way to their destruction.

Luke 17 tells us that the last days will be like the days of Noah and the days of Lott.

This Jesuit "leader" is yet another voice telling us in these days that the only worldly sin today is to call a sin a "sin".

Uh oh...

53 posted on 04/04/2017 8:21:34 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s how we get people who think Obama is a Christian.

The blindness today is unbelievable. I worked in a large Christian organization (I will not name it publicly nor privately so don’t bother asking). Quote the Bible (which they sold every single day) to the guys and gals in my area and 60%+ would be angry with you or have some liberal spin implanted in their brains by liberal professors.


54 posted on 04/04/2017 8:28:03 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Robwin

Like a living constitution, liberal Christians have a living Bible, too.


55 posted on 04/04/2017 8:37:55 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Pollster1

I’m not much of an intellectual, but it seems clear enough to me that there isn’t much room for man to separate, or for homo “marriage.” I don’t think I’d take a chance on thinking that I have the ‘nuance’ correct considering the penalty for being wrong. I also remember something about leading someone else wrong, that it was better to have a millstone around your neck and thrown in the sea.

That is pretty clear as well.


56 posted on 04/04/2017 9:02:07 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: TalBlack

Dittos


57 posted on 04/04/2017 9:06:08 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Robwin

I take it that the Jesuits are still recognized as Catholics by the Catholic Church?


58 posted on 04/04/2017 1:25:58 PM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: Candor7

G-d is saying that lying with women not your wife results in the punishment of death.


59 posted on 04/04/2017 2:15:40 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: GBA

Luke 17 sounds like the present. The Last Days, huh? Explains what’s going on.


60 posted on 04/04/2017 2:24:09 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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