Thoughts?
I don't know enough about Barth to comment.
We would be thrilled to have the catholics enter our protestant churches. But “reconciliation” always seems to mean we will get to be Roman Catholic.
I present current church leadership, in Rome, London, and elsewhere, as reason to continue division of the Church into separate, but complementary, houses. Each to reinforce and moderate the others.
Here we go again...
I’d love to end the schism, but 1: I refuse to acknowledge the authority of Pope Frank, and 2: Irreconcilable differences regarding the doctrine of justification.
Also, if the ELCA is so eager for unity with the Roman Catholics, I’m not sure I want to be. I already know the ELCA is corrupt; why would any truly Godly organization want them?
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We are all the church. Does your church teach the Gospel and is Bible believing? That’s all you need.
The benefit to Catholicism is that it was compelled at last to begin to take stock of itself.
With this pope? Ain’t gonna happen................
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”
He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”
He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”
Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.
- Emo Philips
No under normal conditions, but with this communist pope, are you kidding????
I can understand this from a European perspective. I cannot see great concern for this among Protestants in healthy and growing Church groups in the U.S., which is not among the old-line “mainstream” Churches that began one way and as they strayed have seen their member leave for the Christian chuches growing and doing well now.
When did the mainstream Churches in the U.S. begin to stray? When they began to (1) embrace the world and (2) embrace cultural Marxist dialectics that attacked everything in their own culture as “wrong”, and they wanted to be “liked” by those embracing that dialectic. In reality, in their moment of greatest strength, in the U.S., their faith weakened and set them against their own foundations. The “flocks” have been leaving ever sense.
So the Council of Trent is going to be rescinded by Rome?
I love my RC brothers and sisters, but we may be not able to completely unify until the Last Day.
We do have lots in common to work together on: affirming the sanctity of the unborn human, for example. And what a wonderful coincidence: today, March 1, marks the first of the 40 days of life.
Thoughts?
I don't know enough about Barth to comment.
Hans Küng is merely a spoke in the wheel. The end game is one-world religion.
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Pope Francis Encourages the One-World Church?
By Cornelia R. Ferreira
“...The UR is a United Nations project.[1] It was heralded in June 1995 by Bishop Swing at the occult, earth-worshipping interfaith service he was invited to conduct for the UN, honoring the 50th anniversary of the signing of the UN Charter. Attending the service in San Francisco’s Episcopal Grace Cathedral were political luminaries and representatives of all religions, including Britain’s Princess Margaret, Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, Polish President Lech Walesa, UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Archbishop Renato Martino (Vatican nuncio to the UN), and Archbishop John Quinn of San Francisco.
The UR is meant to be for religions what the UN is for nations. Its purpose is to be the world religious authority, “a UN for religion” in order to foster peace. Delegates to its charter-writing summit in 1997 considered they had given birth to a “movement as well as a spiritual institution”. “[T]ell the people that there is a United Religions,” said Swing. It will shine “the light of the world’s spiritual traditions [paganism and occultism included] into a world desperately in need of light.” It aims to solve issues of environment, population, poverty and disease whilst building religious unity...”
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[Shimon] Peres’ proposal to Francis to set up a UN of religions
“...Due to the power of religions and the Pope’s charisma, Peres would like Pope Francis to lead the proposed UN of religions: “When I look around me I notice one thing: perhaps for the first time in history the Holy Father is a leader who has the respect of many people as well as the most diverse religions and their representatives. Indeed, he may actually be the only leader they really respect. Hence the idea I proposed to Francis...”
Go for it...Keep thinin’ the crowd so those of us left can fit thru that narrow gate...
This “church” will in no way hold to biblical morality or law, and will hold itself above the law, proclaiming that God is all forgiving and there is no such thing as individual repentance or acceptance of salvation in the name of Yeshua.
Küng has been a crypto-Protestant since the days of Vatican II, and his opinions have the same disease within them that afflicts liberal Protestant denominations. All the while, he really doesn’t want to address the issues, only hand wave over them and say they aren’t really problems.
If what he desired would come to pass and the Pope would be on board, the end result would be a new schism in the Catholic Church (while possibly not ending the old one), the declaration of sede-vacante, and the election of a new Pope by those Catholics who still hold to the teachings of the 21 Ecumenical Councils.
In the end, nobody would be happy and everyone would lose.
Worked out great for Anne Boylyn after all.
Any student of History shows that when Jesus ascended to Heaven, James took over the church. Peter was never mentioned other than just another apostle starting churches. There are no popes, cardinals, and no nuns mentioned in the Bible. All of this was made up by men. The church Jesus started went from 33AD to around ~300-320 AD, when Constantine mixed "Babylonian" religion with Christianity. This was the beginning of "fornication" with the kings of the earth. He forsook almost everything Biblical and Jewish with pagan religion. He changed the calendar and Feast Days, to pagan days like Christmas and Easter from Tabernacles and Passover. He changed the calendar from 360 days to 365 days, months from 30 days to various counts, changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, ect. In the letters to the churches in Revelation 2-3, we find the church at Thyatira. Thyatira was Nimrod's daughter's name. The Spirit of Jezebel is in the RCC. Mary is NOT a prophetess. Her sexual immorality is messing with idols. It's the only church that specifically says they will be left behind in the Rapture if they refuse to repent.p You can be "saved" and be Catholic, but the problems start when the Catholic church is raised above Jesus. There is so much error in the teachings, the members are confused to the truth. The main error for me is thinking we are saved by anything other that faith. We receive grace when we show faith in Jesus as Savior. It has nothing to do with memberships, baptisms, religious classes, and repeating prayers. The thief on the cross confessed Jesus as who He said he was and Jesus confirmed he would be with Him in Paradise that day. There are NO WORKS involved. Works come as a result of salvation. If you believe that a mob boss can go to heaven just because he was a wheel in the RCC and gave money to his parish, you miss the whole point.
Dirty Prots!
Ecumenism requires heresy, no matter how and where it manifests.