All you have to do is sit down with a priest and get your questions answered.
Then you would no longer be an inactive Catholic.
OMG! Where'd Seven of Nine come from??!!??
Posted on 02/04/2017 5:55:17 PM PST by marshmallow
Edited on 02/04/2017 6:26:43 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
BTW—
You’re welcome. And a breath of fresh air. It is always nice to see manners and charity exercise on religion threads, especially by someone who is not of one’s own denomination.
I’m by no means perfect in those areas, and, as you will see if you hang around this forum, posting on some religion threads seems to be a blood sport.
Pius VI is alleged to have said to Napoleon: You silly little man, you think that you can destroy the Church, when we and our priests haven’t been able to do so in 18 centuries?
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I actually did laugh out loud at that one....
BTW, re: your tag line, Chesterton is one of my favorite reads.
Why?
How many divisions does he have, 2ndDivisionVet??
WOW!
This seems HIGHLY judgmental; could you LIST his sins for me?
Malachi 3:8-18King James Version (KJV)
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
This'll be great; if you get an answer and I get and answer, too!
We can SEE the 'good' and the 'bad' and determine just how 'ugly' the pope is!
(Place theme song earworm into head. Press play...)
Yeah; can't have the neighbors commenting on your dirty laundry; can we!
Tell ya what...
When you Catholics finally find UNITY with each other; then come see if we Prots can be cajoled into it as well.
Didja hear the one about the snake that was SO poor...
He was SO poor that he didn't have a pit to hiss in!
Eh; it could be worse...
Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church;
or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema.
--Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1
At least we Prots aren't in hot water over this!
How can one go wrong if they agree with the top man in charge?
Even MORMONs know this!!
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University) http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng
“We also can’t go against the official teachings of the Pope.”
If the Pope is teaching something that doesn’t square with the Teachings of the Church & the Gospel of Our Lord, Jesus Christ this thankful Catholic convert is certainly going against the Pope as best I can. There is precedent for this in the book of Acts. Paul charitably stood against Peter as I recall because Peter was wrong.
And you are and idiot who picks their nose in public and farts in elevators; too!
Well of COURSE!
They have ONE level of Heaven; unlike MORMONS who have THREE.
Your tithing percentages make QUITE a difference which level a MORMON finally attains in the afterlife...
HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):
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Temple Recommend Questions
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost? 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer? 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days? 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church? 5 Do you live the law of chastity? 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church? 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel? 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen? 10 Are you a full-tithe payer? 11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom? 12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations? 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple? 14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been? 15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances? |
Well; if one finds wailing and gnashing of teeth after a Prot posts some Scripture; you can pretty much assume that certain people WISH it had been!
All you have to do is sit down with a priest and get your questions answered.
Then you would no longer be an inactive Catholic.
OMG! Where'd Seven of Nine come from??!!??
This is SO hard to do for certain folks...
Ask JESUS...
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Understand that not everything the Pope does is the the supreme exercise of his office. Not only is there precedent for disagreeing with him when he is not doing so, there are procedutes and bounds.
Peter was wrong in his social actions, which in some sense do teach, but are not an exercise of his teaching office. When the Pope is acting primarily as priest or as ruler, he is not primarily exercising his teaching office, so there is much more room for intellectual agreement. When he is acting as someone who needs to process stuff outlaid in an unofficial conversation, the same holds.
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