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To: Jim Noble; Elsie; MHGinTN

Yes while the Bible tells us that Joseph never “knew her” until after the birth of Jesus, it never says that they never had sex...

sex between married couples was never a sin ...God encouraged people to “multiple” ...

sex was SANCTIFIED by the marriage customs of the Jews following God’s instructions..

The word UNTIL has meaning...(also “till”)

Matthew 1:25

The Catholic Bibles

New Jerusalem Bible
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. Matthew 1:25,

Vulgate Bible
et non cognoscebat eam donec peperit filium suum primogenitum et vocavit nomen eius Iesum

And he knew her not till she brought forth her first born son: and he called his name Jesus.

The Protestant Bibles

New International Version
But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

New Living Translation
But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

English Standard Version
but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.

Berean Study Bible
But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son. And he gave Him the name Jesus.

Berean Literal Bible
But he did not know her until she had brought forth a Son, and he called His name Jesus.

New American Standard Bible
but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

King James Bible
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
but did not know her intimately until she gave birth to a son. And he named Him Jesus.

International Standard Version
He did not have marital relations with her until she had given birth to a son; and he named him Jesus.

NET Bible
but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son, whom he named Jesus.

New Heart English Bible
and had no marital relations with her until she had brought forth a son; and he named him Jesus.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he did not know her sexually until she delivered her firstborn son, and she called his name Yeshua.

GOD’S WORD® Translation
He did not have marital relations with her before she gave birth to a son. Joseph named the child Jesus.

New American Standard 1977
and kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

Jubilee Bible 2000
and knew her not until she had brought forth her firstborn son, and he called his name Jesus.

King James 2000 Bible
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

American King James Version
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

American Standard Version
and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name JESUS.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Darby Bible Translation
and knew her not until she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.

English Revised Version
and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name JESUS.

Webster’s Bible Translation
And knew her not till she had brought forth her first-born son: and he called his name JESUS.

Weymouth New Testament
but did not live with her until she had given birth to a son. The child’s name he called JESUS.

World English Bible
and didn’t know her sexually until she had brought forth her firstborn son. He named him Jesus.

Young’s Literal Translation
and did not know her till she brought forth her son — the first-born, and he called his name Jesus.


45 posted on 02/02/2017 9:28:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

The nun probably wasn’t either.

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49 posted on 02/02/2017 9:30:22 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Tennessee Nana
Here is Mathew 1 18-25 (NIV) to put this in context to make sure we take the meaning correctly. Notice that Joseph was going to divorce Marry because she got pregnant. If he was having sex with her, what a a-hole he would be....but he is told she got pregnant through the holy spirit...and he was then ok with it. The inference one has to draw is he knew it wasn't his and figured she was cheating on him until he had the dream. If he had been having sex with her, he would have presumed it was his...and if it was indeed ok for them to have sex then her becoming pregnant would be an expected result rather than a scandal where divorce would need to be considered.

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[d]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.”

22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”).

24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

60 posted on 02/02/2017 10:30:07 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Tennessee Nana; Jim Noble

Her FIRST son,and the Bible names the later sons ... who might just have been farmed out to uncles and aunts when Joseph died leaving a large gaggle of children for Mary to care for. These brothers and sisters are even recorded in the Bible as having come to a house where Jesus was teaching, asking for an urgent audience with Him.


63 posted on 02/02/2017 10:40:14 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sorry; Nana; but we Prots are not invited to this Catholic family feud.


80 posted on 02/02/2017 2:05:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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