Posted on 02/01/2017 6:33:59 PM PST by marshmallow
Evangelicals have been urged to celebrate the Reformation as "essential" to Christianity and resist attempts to dilute differences between Protestants and Catholics.
The Evangelical Alliance's statement to mark the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, headlined on the Evangelical Alliance press release as "500 Years of Protest", praised the split as a recovery of Jesus' teaching. It emphasised ongoing "points of divergence" between the two traditions as well as acknowledging efforts at reconciliation and convergence after centuries of mistrust.
"As evangelicals, we owe a great deal of our doctrinal, spiritual and cultural identity to the Reformation," the statement read.
"The Reformation was not so much an innovation as a recovery – a recovery of the essential content of the 'evangel' or 'good news' of salvation proclaimed by Jesus Christ himself, and by his apostles. That work of recovery is reflected in our own designation as evangelicals."
It insists the "core distinctions" between Luther and the 16th-century Roman Catholic church "remain between modern-day evangelicals and Catholics despite efforts at reconciliation".
The statement marked a notably different tone to that of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Archbishop of York who called for repentance for the division. They lamented the "lasting damage done five centuries ago to the unity of the Church, in defiance of the clear command of Jesus Christ to unity in love".
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A shame that God didn't give us free moral will. If we don't have free moral will then it's all Gods fault. That does not appear to be the case.
'I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, but I don't care about the Church...'.
Which Church? I don't care about Satans Church or those who follow false gods.
Dear friends, let us ask the Lord, through the intercession of the Virgin Mary, Mother of the Church..."
The very words that Jesus said . . . er uh no. Our only intercessor is Jesus. Him and only Him.
Amen! Hence one of the problems with roman catholicism.
Ya know...you can argue with people until they are blue in the face regarding Mary.
Show me the scripture?
Show me where she is our “intercessor”?
Where in the Bible?
Show me where we are saved by a “building” or “membership” also?
Crickets.....
Only Jesus Saves.
John 8:24
“I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
Acts 16:30-31
He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1 Timothy 2:5-6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
Here’s a wonderful article (for those who seek Truth) on a real personal relationship with Christ, that does save.
It’s got scripture to back it.
https://www.gotquestions.org/personal-relationship-with-God.html
OWG is coming and with it, the OWR that you will either bow down to or be destroyed. Your choice...
“Reformation was not so much an innovation as a recover”
+1
Crickets? Really? Here in the Religion forum we’ve argued all that stuff and more for, wow, getting close to 20 years now. And we make the same points over and over and over again that get promptly ignored.
I’m happy to ally with evangelicals on social issues but the entire body of Protestantism is a tissue of heresy carefully chosen to salve the guilty consciences of a few reprobates like Luther and Henry VIII.
But I agree with the Evangelical Alliance. No compromise.
Exactly. Liberalism was born with Luther.
Really? Rather proCatholic polemics have been refuted time and time again,by God's grace, including ones i saw by you, and thus the veterans have quit arguing. But if you want to try again, let me know.
I’m happy to ally with evangelicals on social issues but the entire body of Protestantism is a tissue of heresy carefully chosen to salve the guilty consciences of a few reprobates like Luther and Henry VIII.
Actually, you can continue to harbor your chosen delusion and promote your invisible and ant-Scriptural church , with reprobate popes, or like many of your own, call modern popes reprobates, but it leaves you a member of a heretical cult either way.
Just remember, a little leaven leavens the whole lump. Please, no agreement between evangelicals and Roman Catholicism.
John 1:1 “In the beginning (Genesis 1:1) was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
It has been man, listening to 'sweet self serving whisperers', since the beginning that got a 'spirit' and tried to make themselves the WORD... It is not that hard to test the fruit of men's workings, after all, we all have access to the WORD.
Who made you judge? Christ, Himself protested the ‘religious’ hierarchy, and they too called him a ‘heretic’ and wanted Him dead. As it is Written there is nothing new under the sun, what has been will be again...
Wrong. The first accounting of the liberal mind was back in Genesis after the garden party... The man Adam answer His Heavenly Father with the following...
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. 8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. 9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
First recorded case of liberalism.
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
You guys have been split from each other for 500 years, you all claim the Holy Spirit and you can't agree on squat.
Second of all, on the supposed "deformation" of the ancient Church. You guys teach Church history by launching straight from Acts and quickly scurrying to the 16th century. The reason why is because *you can't find a Protestant church* in that 1500 year period. There isn't ONE Church, ONE author, ONE movement you can point to throughout all that time that is fully and completely Protestant.
I'll take my Christianity as it emerged from Christ and the Apostles, as it was taught by the great Fathers and Doctors, and as lived in the lives of the saints, not a false Christianity cobbled together by degenerate men who were unfaithful to their vows and their wives.
As a Roman Catholic I agree that ecumenicism that papers over doctrinal differences is a lie.
I am no judge. It is the Church’s authority you are kicking against, not mine.
The Church, by the way, that Christ founded. I cannot imagine thinking that Christ would found a Church only to have it *immediately* be corrupted and leave His beloved people deep in error for over a thousand years. Sheer madness.
Why do you suppose Christ declared in Mark 13: 22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Mind you, not one Word of the so called ‘New Testament’ had yet been placed on plant fibers or animal skins, when Christ declared He had already foretold us all things. Which Church teaches what Christ taught? By the way, Paul says the ‘saints’ or set aside, chosen, election took place before the ‘foundation of the world’, or as accurately translated before the casting down/overthrow of the devil... Pronouncing somebody a ‘saint’ was NOT left up to flesh man, it has already been declared.
Thanks Daniel. Glad I am not in that “other” religion any longer. :-)
The reason there won't be a full reconciliation is because the Roman Catholic church will accept nothing less than capitulation to their dogmas - regardless of their Scriptural basis - and fealty to the Pope as the leader of all Christendom. We shouldn't kid ourselves that Rome is or ever was really serious about "unity" - the differences remain and are non-negotiable.
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