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Why Was Jesus Born When and Where He Was?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12-22-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/23/2016 7:45:30 AM PST by Salvation

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1 posted on 12/23/2016 7:45:30 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 12/23/2016 7:46:45 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The internal Scripture evidence implies a fall birth. Augustus ordered a census for tax purposes and the best time to tax an agriculture population is just after the Harvest.


3 posted on 12/23/2016 7:48:06 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

June 17 2 BC. Conjunction of Venus (peace) and Jupiter (king) in Virgo (virgin) in the position of her womb


4 posted on 12/23/2016 7:52:11 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: BigEdLB

Interesting. I’ve never heard that rationale before. It’s as good as any other I’ve heard and better than some.

CC


5 posted on 12/23/2016 8:01:10 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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Yeshua was born on Feast of Trumpets, Yom Teruah, Sept. 11, 3 BC. The Revelation 12 sign: clothed in the sun...
This is the same day he returns on in the future, ie., Yom Teruah.

Biblical events occur on YHVH’s calendar, not the Roman/Church calendar. If you stay in Rome, you like most, will miss His second visitation.


6 posted on 12/23/2016 8:10:55 AM PST by veracious
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To: veracious

Must be a record. It took only 6 posts for anti-Catholicism to rear it’s ugly head.


7 posted on 12/23/2016 8:17:49 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Salvation

When:

In general, it was the changeover from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire. The world was about to be thrown into chaos from the insane and despotic Emperors that would come after Augustus.

In particular, the rise of the Empire meant the beginning of the Diaspora, as Jewish Zealots fought against worshipping Emperors as gods. The destruction of the Second Temple by the armies of Titus (who later became Emperor; Vespasian his father was Emperor during the destruction of the Temple) was the event that spread Jews far and wide across the known world, in order to survive.

Jesus was born at a time to tell the Jewish people - His people - what they could expect in a few decades, and have them remember it and document his words.

The Roman Empire was a model for the future final world government, and when He warned about the oppression His people would suffer, He was issuing a prophetic warning to all who recognized who and what He was.

Where:

Bethlehem, which was not the “hometown” of Jesus. It just so happened that His family had to travel there to be taxed as dictated by Augustus. Jesus and His immediate family lived in Nazareth.

Bethlehem was the necessary birthplace to fulfill Old Testament prophecy.

Micah 5:2 (KJV)

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.


8 posted on 12/23/2016 8:23:35 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: fidelis

It’s bigger than Catholic system. The end time Babylon has three major parts: religion, government and business. This mixture will, and is, mixing true and false, leading to confusion among the people and nations. The cup of man’s made solutions is filling up and nearly ready to be poured out on those choosing man’s religion, business and government. The great delusion.


9 posted on 12/23/2016 8:27:52 AM PST by veracious
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To: fidelis

Which ones? All six previous to your post? Please point them out. Inquiring minds would like to know.


10 posted on 12/23/2016 8:28:31 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: veracious
Yeshua was born on Feast of Trumpets, Yom Teruah, Sept. 11, 3 BC.

9-11?

11 posted on 12/23/2016 8:32:35 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Glenn Beck is one Blood Bucket shy of the Funny Farm)
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To: veracious

thank goodness there are folks like you, and not silly old aquinas...i mean, what does he know about the true catholic faith and church Christ built....

if only aquinas could have had access to your knowledge, and your shortened bible, and your ‘training and education’ compared to his....he wouldnt have made so many errors....

(insert eye roll here)


12 posted on 12/23/2016 8:42:08 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Salvation
If he were born somewhere else, the question would be why there, etc.
13 posted on 12/23/2016 8:50:54 AM PST by Salman
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To: Celtic Conservative

Wasn’t there a prophecy about Bethlehem in Micah?


14 posted on 12/23/2016 9:11:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: angryoldfatman

You got the prophecy, thanks.


15 posted on 12/23/2016 9:12:57 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: raygunfan

What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!


16 posted on 12/23/2016 9:14:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

i know, amazing, but that’s one of the ‘advantages’ of being a protestant of any stripe, you have no authority except the bible, so you can make it say anything you need it to say to support your version (the only true correct version according to each individual) of the teachings of Christ....the heck with the actual history of what happened, and who was there and witnessed it, and the handed on teaching from them.....cant have that...just need me, the bible and the holy spirit....says everyone of the 1000’s of competing ‘bible believing’ churches....


17 posted on 12/23/2016 9:20:14 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Salvation

https://youtu.be/ox3cOjy28Oo

My theme today is “tiny.”


18 posted on 12/23/2016 9:23:13 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: Mercat

Beautiful.


19 posted on 12/23/2016 9:32:18 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mercat

Beautiful.


20 posted on 12/23/2016 9:44:18 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa....I can explain.)
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