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To: raygunfan

What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!


16 posted on 12/23/2016 9:14:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

i know, amazing, but that’s one of the ‘advantages’ of being a protestant of any stripe, you have no authority except the bible, so you can make it say anything you need it to say to support your version (the only true correct version according to each individual) of the teachings of Christ....the heck with the actual history of what happened, and who was there and witnessed it, and the handed on teaching from them.....cant have that...just need me, the bible and the holy spirit....says everyone of the 1000’s of competing ‘bible believing’ churches....


17 posted on 12/23/2016 9:20:14 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: Salvation

I am as much a saint as that guy. He doesn’t speak for God any more than I do. His points are interesting and may be correct, but they carry no more weight than any other learned person on these matters.


27 posted on 12/23/2016 10:30:26 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Salvation
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

What a kick to see how catholics elevate people with false titles.

Every believer in Christ is a SAINT!

42 posted on 12/23/2016 6:27:18 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation; raygunfan
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

As a Catholic Thomas believed that God is the "maker of heaven and earth, of all that is visible and invisible."

Like Aristotle, Thomas posited that life could form from non-living material or plant life, a theory of ongoing abiogenesis known as spontaneous generation:

Since the generation of one thing is the corruption of another, it was not incompatible with the first formation of things, that from the corruption of the less perfect the more perfect should be generated. Hence animals generated from the corruption of inanimate things, or of plants, may have been generated then.[105

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Criticism_of_Aquinas_as_philosopher

Yeah, it's a hoot to see who argues against Aquinas...or more importantly who Aquinas argues against.

No wonder catholics have a problem with Genesis.

20Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.” 21God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

24Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so. 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Genesis 1:20-27

There is no spontaneous generation. That's a position of the Left...not Christianity.

44 posted on 12/23/2016 6:53:23 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

Thomas believed that the existence of God is self-evident in itself, but not to us. "Therefore I say that this proposition, "God exists", of itself is self-evident, for the predicate is the same as the subject.... Now because we do not know the essence of God, the proposition is not self-evident to us; but needs to be demonstrated by things that are more known to us, though less known in their nature—namely, by effects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Criticism_of_Aquinas_as_philosopher

Aquinas did not think the finite human mind could know what God is directly, therefore God's existence is not self-evident to us.[2] In other words, he rejected Anselm's ontological argument. So instead we must infer God's existence indirectly, from his effects which are more known to us.[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ways_(Aquinas)

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20 NASB

He did read the Word....right??

46 posted on 12/23/2016 7:04:29 PM PST by ealgeone
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