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1 posted on 12/16/2016 3:58:30 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Does my life belong to me, or the State?


2 posted on 12/16/2016 4:03:48 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Morgana

Does my life belong to me, or the State?


3 posted on 12/16/2016 4:03:48 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Rushmore Rocks

self ping to reply later.....tough decision I have to face soon.


5 posted on 12/16/2016 4:07:35 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks (,)
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To: Morgana
State Sen. Joseph Vitale recently held a hearing in his Health, Human ...
7 posted on 12/16/2016 4:09:00 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

Preachers should preach against assisted suicide more often. I am against assisted suicide. I do not consider pulling the plug on a person who is brain dead as indicated by an EEG as assisted suicide.


8 posted on 12/16/2016 4:09:10 PM PST by cowlitzron
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To: Morgana

Just because they “say” they are Evangelical doesn’t make it so. Many of these people may be caregivers for their parents who do not want to go through the heartwrenching experience or maybe don’t care (I hope that’s not the case). . but we are neither the Giver of life or the Taker of life.


12 posted on 12/16/2016 4:19:33 PM PST by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
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Thank you for referencing that poll Morgana. Please note that the following critique is directed at the timing of the poll and not at you.

”… , according to a new poll, Christianity Today reports."

Although there may be cause for concern, poll results seem a little insignificant after the months of election poll manipulation that we just went through.

16 posted on 12/16/2016 4:31:42 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Morgana

Euthanasia is a dangerous slippery slope.

In the decade after Belgium legalized doctor-assisted death, the number of patients using it to end their lives rose nearly eight-fold, according to records of the national euthanasia control committee.

Most patients choosing this way to die between 2003 and 2013 were younger than 80 and had cancer. But the largest increases in euthanasia cases over that period was among people older than 80, those without cancer and those not expected to die in the near future, researchers report in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

Belgium legalized euthanasia in 2002, and the new regulations allow a doctor to end a patient’s life if the patient requests it, has full mental capacity and has constant, unbearable physical or mental suffering, the researchers write.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/09/16/euthanasia-rising-in-belgium-including-more-who-are-not-terminally-ill.html


The first child has died under a new law in Belgium allowing doctors to euthanize children.

In 2014, Belgium voted to extend euthanasia to children with disabilities, in a move pro-life advocates worldwide had been fearing would come and expand an already much-abused euthanasia law even further. The law allows minors to seek euthanasia under certain conditions and the measure also would extend the right to request euthanasia to adults with dementia. No age limit would be set, but the children who are euthanized would have “to possess the capacity of discernment.”

Euthanasia has been legal in Belgium since 2002 but has, since its enactment, been prohibited for patients under 18. While euthanasia is legal in a handful of countries in Europe, Belgium is the first country in the world to lift all age restrictions on the practice.

http://www.lifenews.com/2016/09/19/first-child-dies-after-belgium-approves-measure-allowing-doctors-to-euthanize-children/


17 posted on 12/16/2016 4:33:15 PM PST by DFG
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To: Morgana

Remember this case:

The news from Barbara Wagner’s doctor was bad, but the rejection letter from her insurance company was crushing.

The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the insurance company refused to pay.

What the Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover, however, were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492


18 posted on 12/16/2016 4:36:15 PM PST by DFG
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To: Morgana
This is MOST difficult to believe.
I think that these stats are wrong, very wrong.

The interviewers asked the wrong questions, asked people in "terminal patient" care wards, got a population (young) to interview...and otherwise produced a TREMENDOUSLY skewed, irrelevant and WRONG "consensus" of ten young people.

22 posted on 12/16/2016 5:03:32 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana

That’s the same 40% that voted for Obama, Hillary, etc.


23 posted on 12/16/2016 5:06:49 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Morgana

My life belongs to me. Not to the state, the church or the courts.

Me. How I end it is none of their business.


26 posted on 12/16/2016 5:16:19 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Morgana
And 20% of Evangelical/Born-Again women have had abortions - and I don't mean before they came to Christ, I mean as believers.

We also have the same divorce rate as non-Christians. We are not "set apart" but do just as the heathens do in our midst.
Just like the OT Hebrews.

29 posted on 12/16/2016 5:31:16 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Morgana
They don’t believe that suffering until they die of natural causes is the only way out...

Maybe so....but I've seen hundreds of people....use unnatural ways to keep.."living".

Sometimes it's families..dictating what we do.

Sometimes it's the patient themselves...

And I also don't believe people need to suffer...We can make them comfortable..........

32 posted on 12/16/2016 7:05:00 PM PST by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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To: Morgana

I saw a documentary about a European man who chose euthanasia. It showed his death. Utterly Satanic.


34 posted on 12/16/2016 11:12:07 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Morgana
Huge Pro-Life Problem: 40% of Evangelicals Think It’s Okay to Kill Patients in Assisted Suicide

It's that darned SAMSON story that is so bothersome for many.

36 posted on 12/17/2016 5:27:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Huge Pro-Life Problem: 40% of Evangelicals Think It’s Okay to Kill Patients in Assisted Suicide

I'd bet that if 'life extending' medical 'miracles' had NOT been used on these 'patients'; there'd be NO problem to be solved; Right??

37 posted on 12/17/2016 5:29:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana
The purpose of the medical institution under the Hippocratic Oath is ultimately to promote life and cure disease, not hasten or worse yet, be an accomplice to death.

One can claim what the 'purpose' is all day; but the WORDING says...



The Hippocratic Oath is an oath historically taken by physicians. It is one of the most widely known of Greek medical texts.
In its original form, it requires a new physician to swear, by a number of healing gods, to uphold specific ethical standards.
Of historic and traditional value, the oath is considered a rite of passage for practitioners of medicine in many countries,
although nowadays various modernized versions are often used; the message delivered is still the same, "Do no Harm."
 

Modern version[edit]

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:...

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
 

Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

 

 

38 posted on 12/17/2016 5:35:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Morgana

The only problem with this scheme is it makes doctors into killers of patients. That is a line crossed that should not be crossed.


47 posted on 12/17/2016 7:58:48 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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52 posted on 12/18/2016 7:04:27 AM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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