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Sorry this had to be excerpted. Do read all of this excellent article.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/msgr-pope/vote-as-a-catholic-with-a-catholic-moral-vision

1 posted on 10/22/2016 9:30:27 AM PDT by Salvation
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http://www.ncregister.com/blog/msgr-pope/vote-as-a-catholic-with-a-catholic-moral-vision


2 posted on 10/22/2016 9:31:07 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

waiting for certain anti-Catholic posters on FR to chime in....


4 posted on 10/22/2016 9:33:22 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Salvation

The degradation of all human life opens the door for a dictatorial and oppressive government to kill off its unwanted opposition. No remorse or resistance since no one cares about any one life anyway.


6 posted on 10/22/2016 9:35:25 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Salvation

It is a call to live one’s faith in the polling place.


8 posted on 10/22/2016 9:45:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Salvation
To again be clear, abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, and same-sex “marriage” are moral issues, and the Church must teach against them no matter where the political lines fall.

I would agree with that statement.

A problem is the Catholic church doesn't excommunicate Catholic politicians that persist in holding and promoting views contrary to the Churches teaching.

That's one of the reasons I believe the Catholic Church is not being taken seriously today by many Catholics. - Tom

9 posted on 10/22/2016 9:51:56 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Salvation

I am. I will only vote for the presidency, though. No Republic/Democrat or other will get my vote this time. I’m through with the Republicans. And I’ll vote No on any bond issue!


11 posted on 10/22/2016 10:02:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Salvation

I can not fathom how any Catholic, or any Christian can vote for a candidate who is not pro life.


12 posted on 10/22/2016 10:07:03 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Salvation
The following may apply to all whose faith, whether Catholic, Protestant, or other belief system whose consciences causes them to object to Hillary's positions on the "life" question.

For all who understand the underlying premise of the Declaration of Independence--that our rights, as individuals, are inalienable precisely, and only, because they are endowed by the Creator--then, Trump's remarks which elicited exposure of Clinton's unequivocal commitment to the 20th Century "progressive" notion of destroying the life and liberty of children in the womb makes him the winner.

In America, our constitutional protections rest on the Founders' premise that each and all individuals are "endowed by their Creator" with the unalienable right to both life and the liberty to enjoy it, or, in their words, "the pursuit of happiness."

The sole reason these rights were deemed unalienable is that both are derived from the Creator--not from the mother or father, and not from government or judicial decision. What is "granted" by human decision also can, by implication, be withheld.

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them (life and liberty)," said Thomas Jefferson.

"The world is different now. . . and yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address

That understanding underlies every other consideration embodied in our Declaration of Independence and every protection of our Constitution. It is the very basis of our rights to life and liberty, of laws to protect them, and it distinguishes ours from other forms of government.

When we fail to acknowledge that foundation of our liberty, then we risk liberty itself for future generations, for where does the right to choose who lives and who does not really end?

That is why the question is of vital importance in each election. Already, we have deprived millions of their Creator-endowed rights to life and liberty, and our nation must be weaker for their loss. We need leaders who understand the implications and potential consequences of departing from our founding principles.

In recent decades, technological advances have enabled us to observe the characteristics and actions of God's tiniest creations in the womb. Unlike previous generations who could not see, we have no excuse for imagining that these are mere blobs of tissue labeled "fetuses." In their early weeks, we now can see that they are living babies who will continue on to possess life and liberty if we do not "destroy" both. Indeed, they are simply smaller versions of ourselves.

Clinton's clever semantic maneuver which conflates "women's health" with the death of a viable and distinct "other" masks an agenda that is not consistent with the underlying principles of the Framers' Constitutional protections for liberty.

16 posted on 10/22/2016 10:28:12 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Be Catholic. Vote as a Catholic with a Catholic moral vision.

I wish somebody had said that to the cardinals' electoral college prior to last papal conclave.

But then again, it was Francis's henchmen, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldiserrri, secretary of the College of Cardinals, and Master of Pontifical Liturgical Celebrations Monsignor Guido Marini who orchestrated the vote.

17 posted on 10/22/2016 10:55:57 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: RitaOK; Mrs. Don-o

Another priest speaks out on voting!


19 posted on 10/22/2016 11:24:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

What about those of us where our vote really doesn’t count given the electoral college system? No matter who I vote for...my blue state will vote hillary.


21 posted on 10/22/2016 12:22:28 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: Salvation

Washington Post ABC News Langer Research released October 7th showed Trump up 57/33 with Catholics. The link for that data was http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1182a12016ElectionPredebate.pdf It has since been taken down so the Wapo can push its narrative that Trump has lost 7 points and the felon has gained 1 point. These numbers still put both candidates in record territory since no Republican candidate getting at least 50% of the Catholic vote has ever lost and the previous low with Catholics for a Democrat is the 39% Walter Mondale got in 1984 while losing 49 states.

There are no surveys of the Catholic vote taken completely after wikileaks exposed John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager’s plot to undermine the authority of the Pope and destroy the Catholic Church here and by extension around the world. When such a survey is done don’t banl on its results being released as the spread will likely go to 60/30 or more. If Trump merely splits the undecideds it goes to 65/35 for a big blowout. Catholics should be about 23% of all voters and that would hand Trump about 15 points before the doors open on Election Day. Pray a novena to St. Michael for his help in this battle for our religious freedom.


22 posted on 10/22/2016 12:30:59 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Salvation

A few good Catholic bishops are speaking up. I can’t wait for those “modern” priests ordained in the 60s and 70s to leave by attrition.

The new young priests have no illusions about influence, grandeur and power. They know being a priest is now a thankless life of service and they are choosing it anyway. May God bless them and reward them in their noble vocations. I have great hope for the Church of 20 years from now.


27 posted on 10/22/2016 3:28:21 PM PDT by Melian (While we argue here, the bad guys are winning.)
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To: Salvation

While I do vote pro-life, it is often the case that a vote for a Republican is not pro-life. The Republican might be a pro-abortion Whitman or Weld.

Or the Republican might be Trump. While Trump may say he opposes abortion, I do not believe it. He has too long a history as a womanizer, and too little thought for God.

That he sought the Republican nomination with claims to oppose abortion, makes me doubt his other stated positions, like opposing uncontrolled immigration. I think he says these things to get the votes, but I have no idea if he would stick to them if he were elected.

Yes, Hillary would be openly celebrating abortion and entirely lax on immigration. Doesn’t mean it would be any better, in practice, with Trump.

My state is certainly going for Hillary. So should I vote for Trump, or third party?

If there were A Pox on Both Your Houses Party, I would vote the ticket.


34 posted on 10/22/2016 8:52:29 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: Salvation

Amen Another Winner Here!

God Bless


41 posted on 10/23/2016 12:44:13 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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I have heard nothing from my parish on the subject. As far as I’m concerned, any Catholic who votes for Hillary is a Democrat first and a Catholic somewhere down the line.


43 posted on 10/25/2016 6:34:10 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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