Posted on 06/25/2016 2:13:49 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
Is the Pope catholic?
I’m with her except the green vegetables and gardening part.
“T]he great majority of our sacramental marriages are null. Because they say, ‘Yes, for the rest of my life!’ but they don’t know what they are saying. . . . They say it, they have good will, but they don’t know.”
We have been redeemed by our ignorance.
Does this perhaps apply to Pope’s as well?
Francis is a despicable enemy of the church. I hope he dies in his sleep tonight.
If sedevacantism was a stock, I’d buy it because it’s think it’s going to increase a lot.
I am so sick of the ignoramuses. They are either ignorant or bad-willed. I am slowly coming to believe that most of them are of the latter.
“... declaring Bergoglio to be an antipope won’t change any of that.”
I agree. So, I think it is time to stop propagating the sedevacanist slander. God is NEVER going to let the even the ‘gates of hell’ prevail against Holy Mother Church.
I am sometimes uncomfortable with Francis, and I do understand people’s concerns. That being said; in my mind Emeritus Benedict XVI is beyond reproach, and I resent the implications implied in the article.
Dominus vobiscum...
Yup. Bad-willed. He has been at this long enough to know that what he wrote is false. Most sedes do not proclaim sedevacantism as dogma. Most sedes take their position as an opinion ..albeit the true opinion (we can't both be right).
And his whining about being called non-Catholic? Waaah. Puhleese. I see sedes get that WAY more often than non-sedes especially from those pesky 'dogmatic' sedeplenists (ie. SSPX/R&R followers).
Is the current pope a Christian? Is he in fact possessed of the Holy Spirit? Because if he is not then he is certainly illegitimate, no matter how he came to be in office.
The substitution of Benedict certainly looks and smells like a coup d’état.
How can you know? Guided by scripture and right reason and the workings of the Holy Spirit, you already know. How do you get through it? Guided by scripture, and right reason, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Pray and look for God to move. Prepare to move as he says “move”. Bergoglio isn’t the Church. The Church is the Church. Christ is the head of the church.
My bad. I thought this was Michael Matt or Christopher Ferrara, hence the “he’s”. Having said that Hilary White seems to have taken on their views as part of “The Remnant Newspaper” and she should also be well aware that what she wrote is false. If she is not, perhaps she should actually research things before writing them.
I appreciate this but it is clear from most non-sedes that its "anything but sedevacantism" even when we make very valid Catholic points and support for our position.
How very "Christian" of you.
Well, perhaps you aren't a Christian, so pardon my assumption. Christians usually don't HOPE for anyone's death. That's God's call.
The Maid of Lone Tree isn’t everyone’s favorite comrade-in-arms. She can be prickly and contrary. Had she lived in the time of Christ, even Jesus would have rolled His eyes over some of her comments.
Still, I like her. She can smell sulphur at a thousand miles, and she’s fearless as a badger.
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So I guess that "traditional Catholics" believe that these men have NOT been popes.
St. John XXIII (1958-63)
Paul VI (1963-78)
John Paul I (1978)
St. John Paul II (1978-2005)
Benedict XVI (2005-2013)
Francis (2013—)
If one should visit St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican, right at the entrance, one would see all the names of the popes and their dates of their papacy listed. They ARE engraved in granite.
The folks THERE believe that the names after 1958 were valid popes...and that is what counts in the Catholic world...minus those "sedevacants," of course.
I'm a traditional Catholic and I do believe that those men listed after 1958 WERE true popes.
How SAD for those people. They are adrift in their faith.
We visited the Vatican some ten years ago. It was an amazing place. I was in awe.
There are STILL the Vatican police-types, but NOT cops, who make sure that visitors are dressed appropriately, no shorts, tank tops, mini-skirts, cleavage-showing, etc.
I was amazed at what people thought was appropriate dress for visiting a place of worship...and St. Peter's IS a place of worship.
They have a Mass going all the time at one of the many 20 or so altars around the Basilica. I stayed for one of them as it was so amazing.
They have OODLES of confessionals at one side apse of the Basilica as well. And they are all labeled by languages: English and Polish, for example, so that priest can hear confession in both languages. I didn't take note of ALL the languages but I don't think that too many were left out. There WAS Chinese, I remember that, both Cantonese and Mandarin.
Then there was a tour of the art pieces...statues, paintings and so on, all for us to appreciate.
Yes, "minus those sedevacants, of course" (can you all hear the condescension and condemnation?). And the OP author is whining about certain sedes calling her non-Catholic.
I could say how sad for those of you who believe that the Catholic Church with its popes could promulgate evil teachings, laws, and liturgy as is the case with Vatican II, the Code of Canon Law in 1983, and the Novus Ordo mess. Talk about being adrift in their faith.
But I won't "minus" you from the Catholic world. I see the confusion that these heretics and usurpers have spread. We are all Catholics trying to find our way through the mess. Is it any wonder that there is no unity in the Church post Vatican II??
What about a resignation prompted by “grave fear” that is NOT “inflicted unjustly”?
If you remember, several months prior to Benedict’s resignation, there were a lot of rumors (and maybe more than rumors) about homosexual infiltration and blackmail “at the highest levels”. I believe, in fact, that some sort of document or dossier on the subject was presented to Benedict in December 2012.
He resigned shortly afterwards. This prompted the famous Q&A wherein Francis said “who am I to judge?”, which closed the subject.
If I were a conspiracist, I would inquire about how Msgr. Ganswein managed to remain in his Vatican job while also continuing to serve Benedict.
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