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To: Arthur McGowan

If sedevacantism was a stock, I’d buy it because it’s think it’s going to increase a lot.


7 posted on 06/25/2016 5:23:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The official language of the United States should be Arabic. It's clear that our government is.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Sedevacantism is the position, held by a minority of traditionalist Catholics, that the present occupant of the Holy See is not truly pope and that, for lack of a valid pope, the see has been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958.

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So I guess that "traditional Catholics" believe that these men have NOT been popes.
St. John XXIII (1958-63)
Paul VI (1963-78)
John Paul I (1978)
St. John Paul II (1978-2005)
Benedict XVI (2005-2013)
Francis (2013—)

If one should visit St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican, right at the entrance, one would see all the names of the popes and their dates of their papacy listed. They ARE engraved in granite.
The folks THERE believe that the names after 1958 were valid popes...and that is what counts in the Catholic world...minus those "sedevacants," of course.
I'm a traditional Catholic and I do believe that those men listed after 1958 WERE true popes.

How SAD for those people. They are adrift in their faith.

We visited the Vatican some ten years ago. It was an amazing place. I was in awe.
There are STILL the Vatican police-types, but NOT cops, who make sure that visitors are dressed appropriately, no shorts, tank tops, mini-skirts, cleavage-showing, etc.
I was amazed at what people thought was appropriate dress for visiting a place of worship...and St. Peter's IS a place of worship.
They have a Mass going all the time at one of the many 20 or so altars around the Basilica. I stayed for one of them as it was so amazing.

They have OODLES of confessionals at one side apse of the Basilica as well. And they are all labeled by languages: English and Polish, for example, so that priest can hear confession in both languages. I didn't take note of ALL the languages but I don't think that too many were left out. There WAS Chinese, I remember that, both Cantonese and Mandarin.

Then there was a tour of the art pieces...statues, paintings and so on, all for us to appreciate.

16 posted on 06/25/2016 7:15:13 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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