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Hovering over Rome: The Ghost of Martin Luther
The Catholic World Report ^ | March 16, 2016 | Allessandra Nucci

Posted on 03/17/2016 7:49:46 AM PDT by ebb tide

Rome has found a name for a new Square in the heart of the city, an open space in the middle of a leafy garden park in a choice area near the Coliseum: Martin Luther Square.

Almost 500 years after Augustinian monk Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Cathedral of Wittenberg, Swabia (October 1517), and 494 years after the bull of excommunication issued by Pope Leo X ("Decet Romanum Pontificem", January 1521), the city of Rome has honored the man who sparked the Protestant Reformation, a movement premised on what Luther condemned in that very city, the headquarters of the Catholic Church.

The nameplate “Martin Luther – German Theologian (1483-1546)” is assigned to an area laden with history: nearby are Emperor Nero's Domus Aurea and the boulevard named after the Greek-Egyptian goddess Serapide. The square was officially inaugurated on Wednesday, September 16 of last year.

The decision came six years after an official request was advanced by the Union of Seventh Day Adventist Churches and the Union of the Lutheran Evangelical Churches in Italy.

While no official comment was issued by the Vatican, Lutheran circles have understandably been all abuzz. “I'm very pleased that our request has come true before the anniversary of the Reform in 2017,” said Pastor Heiner Bludau, senior pastor of the Lutheran Evangelical Church in Italy:

When we researched [in 2010] the meaning of Martin Luther's visit to Rome … we saw that his stay was clearly a part of the history of the Reformation and therefore of the history of Europe. So to dedicate a square in Rome to the great reformer is a highly symbolic and momentous step; in the light of world history it is a step that reflects the level reached by the process of European unification. On both counts I am extremely grateful.

The news, however, barely registered on the press radar, not only because Italy is grappling with engrossing social and economic troubles, but also because the revival of the memory and cult of Martin Luther has become almost normal fare now, both in secular and ecclesiastical circles.

In secular circles it has been powered in part by Germany's effort to unify the separate cultures which were shaped in the formerly partitioned East and West sides of the country, quietly renewing pride in a common national history so as to get over the country’s guilt complex for the World Wars and the Holocaust, so often mentioned in post-war German education.

The endeavor to get past the memories of the twentieth century, not to mention the economic morass inherited from East Germany in the 1990s, has been so successful that Germany today enjoys a hegemony over the European Union. (Germany trails only the U.S. and the U.K. on the “Elcano Global Presence Report 2015”.) This is the case not just from an economic point of view but also a renewed admiration for the country’s apparent efficiency, moral rigor and hard work.

The process can be illustrated by the success among children and families of the plastic toy Luthers recently marketed by Playmobil, which is the fastest-selling Playmobil figure in the company’s history. Related toy replicas have also been popular, including one of Wittenberg Cathedral, one of the castle of Warburg, and one of Luther’s wife, Katharina von Bora, the ex-Cistercian nun he married in 1525, which are sold as specially numbered collector's items.

Gemany's Catholic authorities also had a part in the revival and unprecedented universality of respect for the father of Protestant Christianity. In January 2015, the Archbishop of Munich, Cardinal Reinhard Marx—President of the German Bishops’ Conference and coordinator of Pope Francis's Board of Economic Advisors—summed up Martin Luther’s long march through the institutions of ecumenism in Politik & Kultur: “Now having completed fifty years of dialogue, a Catholic Christian, too, may respectfully read the texts penned by Luther and benefit from his ideas.” The same acceptance has been variously expressed by Cardinal Walter Kasper, German Swiss Cardinal Kurt Koch, and Fr. Hans Kung. In his 2008 publication “Night-time Conversations in Jerusalem”, written in German, Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini praised Luther as having somehow inspired the changes that came after Vatican Council II, thereby effectively recasting as the greatest of reformers he who had previously been seen as the prototypical excommunicated heretic.

Last November, Pope Francis caused a stir when, in the words of Vatican reporter Edward Pentin, he appeared “to suggest that a Lutheran wife of a Catholic husband could receive holy Communion based on the fact that she is baptized and in accordance with her conscience.” Pentin reported a month later that Pastor Jens Kruse of Rome’s Evangelical Lutheran Church “said he believes Pope Francis ‘opened the door’ to intercommunion when the Holy Father spoke to his church last month, and that his parishioners generally have the same opinion.” When asked if he interpreted the Pope’s remarks as “allowing Lutherans to receive holy Communion, leaving it up to their conscience?”, Kruse replied in the affirmative:

The Pope said that’s a question each person has to decide for himself. I think it’s typical for Pope Francis to open doors, and now we, as churches, have the duty to find ways to fill this open door with more of a life of ecumenism, of unity. The image of an open door is, I think, a very good one because we are in front of this door at this moment and now we have to find ways to go through this open door.

Following the November 2015 event, Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, told Aleteia.org, “Intercommunion is not permitted between Catholics and non-Catholics. You must confess the Catholic Faith. A non-Catholic cannot receive Communion. That is very, very clear. It’s not a matter of following your conscience.” In order to receive Holy Communion, Cardinal Sarah emphasized, “I need to be in the state of grace, without sin, and have the faith of the Catholic Church. … It’s not a personal desire or a personal dialogue with Jesus that determines if I can receive Communion in the Catholic Church.”

Prior to his pontficate, Josef Cardinal Ratzinger invited the faithful to reflect “very seriously” on Luther's message and “save the great things in his theology”. But he did so without blurring the lines that define the radical change that Luther brought about in “the relationship between the Church and the individual, between the Church and the Bible”, which to this day prevents Catholics and Protestants from sharing “the certainty that recognizes in the Church a common conscience which is greater than private intelligence and interpretations”.

On his trip to Germany, less than a year and a half before abdicating, Pope Benedict XVI stopped at Erfurt, where Luther studied theology and celebrated his first Mass. In the talk given on that occasion, Benedict dwelled on the importance attributed by Luther to the issue of sin, a particularly significant facet of Luther’s teaching in the light of the current emphasis on mercy that often seems to downplay the reality of sin and the real possibility of judgment. Benedict stated:

“How do I receive the grace of God?” The fact that this question was the driving force of his whole life never ceases to make a deep impression on me. For who is actually concerned about this today – even among Christians? What does the question of God mean in our lives? In our preaching? Most people today, even Christians, set out from the presupposition that God is not fundamentally interested in our sins and virtues. He knows that we are all mere flesh. And insofar as people believe in an afterlife and a divine judgement at all, nearly everyone presumes for all practical purposes that God is bound to be magnanimous and that ultimately he mercifully overlooks our small failings. The question no longer troubles us.

In January, it was announced that Francis plans to travel to Sweden in October of this year “for a joint ecumenical commemoration of the start of the Reformation, together with leaders of the Lutheran World Federation and representatives of other Christian Churches.” The event will be the start of events marking the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation; it will also “highlight the important ecumenical developments that have taken place during the past 50 years of dialogue between Catholics and Lutherans.”

I hope, however, that the warmth to Luther’s ideas will not go even further and fashion the formerly excommunicated heretic into a hero and a saint, whitewashing history until even actual events lose all meaning. For the former Augustinian monk was as much a man of the flesh and of turbulent spirits as Pope Alexander VI (1492-1503), whose sins we are in no danger of being allowed to forget.

If there is a reciprocal owning up of mistakes all around, on the part of the Protestants this might include, for example, a formal disowning of Luther's most virulent invectives, such as the ones against the Jews, contained in Luther’s 1543 book On the Jews and Their Lies, and the ones in his “Admonition to Peace”. In the latter, with regard to “The Twelve Articles of the Christian Union of Upper Swabia” (April 1525), Luther pleaded with the German nobility to suppress all the “murderous and thieving hordes of peasants” in the following terms:

What reason be there for leniency with the peasants? If there be any innocents among them, God will know how to best defend and rescue them. If God doesn't rescue them, then that means they are criminals. I think it's best for God to kill farmers rather than princes and judges, as the peasants have no Divine authority on which to base their wielding of the sword. No mercy, no patience towards the peasants, only wrath and indignation, from God and from man. This moment is so exceptional that a prince can earn heaven through bloodshed. Therefore, dear gentlemen, go ahead and exterminate, slay, strangle, and may whoever has power, use it.

Ironically, it was reported that at the September 2015 event in Rome, Michael Kretschmer, representative of the Bundestag (the national Parliament of the Federal Republic of Germany), “remembered the sensitivity of the father of the Reformation for the last (of the world). ‘If he were here today, he would tell us to take care of the poor,’ he said.” Meanwhile, the mayor of Rome, Ignazio Marino, stated: “Today gesture means that Rome has to respect every religion and faith. It is easier to smash an atom than a prejudice, Einstein said. And here we have broken some prejudices.” By all means, let’s welcome the ridding of wrong prejudices, but let’s not reject a prejudice for the truth.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: francis; francischurch; luther; lutheran; luthertheheritc; martinluther; reformation
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Why tempt the LORD ? He already said what is going to happen to those who hated the Jews.

And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee, And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: And the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. And the Lord thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee. And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the Lord, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Deuteronomy, Catholic chapter thirty, Protestant verses one to eight,
Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verses forty one to forty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

361 posted on 03/18/2016 8:34:47 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ebb tide

I was wondering the same thing.

See http://www.wikihow.com/Pray-the-Lutheran-Rosary


362 posted on 03/18/2016 8:43:32 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: af_vet_1981
Why tempt the LORD ? He already said what is going to happen to those who hated the Jews.

I know! Why are you waiting to condemn the "vicious antisemitism by your churches and popes, as delineated upthread, over +1,700 years???!!!

Go for it now. The stage is yours. We are watching to see if you do what you say.

363 posted on 03/18/2016 9:10:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: imardmd1

Selah! Well and truly stated.


364 posted on 03/18/2016 9:20:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I can only speak for myself, but when I was a Catholic, I had about an equal distrust for Jews, as I did for true Christians. I thought of the Jews as those who killed Christ, and I thought of the Christians as religious interlopers, out to disturb the religious peace, telling me I needed to be born again to get saved.
I am glad it finally sank into my thick skull, as the scales fell away from my eyes. Praise the Lord bro. It's not on me now. 😀😀😄
365 posted on 03/18/2016 9:27:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: rwa265


Pray the Protestant Rosary:

Luke 18:13

366 posted on 03/18/2016 10:40:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265

I like that.


367 posted on 03/18/2016 12:19:20 PM PDT by verga (Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Cletus.D.Yokel
I condemn the antisemitism expressed in post 19 by your denominational colleague who wrote "Luther agitated against the demonic cult known as Judaism." It seems to me this antisemitism defines Lutheranism and s a testimony to the Jews watching this thread that reformed theology is fatally flawed, born on an antisemitic foundation that persists to this day.

Contrary to Lutheranism, Catholicism defines its relationship with the Jews and their faith in the Catechism as:

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ",328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329

368 posted on 03/18/2016 12:56:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I condemn the antisemitism expressed in post 19 by your denominational colleague

Oooohhhh. Fail. Since you do not condemn the "vicious antisemitism" of your leaders, popes and churches over a period of 1741 YEARS, we must conclude that "your religion is worthless" as you set the conditions.

That is too bad, but it is what I expected, based on your posts over the years. Thanks for making it clear you are against all anti-semitism - except by popes, leaders and Catholic Churches over the millennia.

369 posted on 03/18/2016 2:00:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: af_vet_1981
It seems to me this antisemitism defines Lutheranism and [is] a testimony to the Jews watching this thread that reformed theology is fatally flawed, born on an antisemitic foundation that persists to this day.

It's interesting to see the interlinking that exists with the Jewish people and the end times.

As a proponent of Replacement Theology and amillennialism, I do not see anything special about the Jewish people of today that reject Christ. They are branches that have been broken off. Of course, they can be grafted back in, but that is only through belief in Jesus.

I do believe that the Jewish people have a special place in God's heart. Romans 11:28 they are loved on account of the patriarchs. But being loved has no guarantee of salvation. John 3:16 For God so loved the world... I think we all know that not everyone is going to be saved.

An interesting idea is the hope of Israel. What is it? Is it an earthly kingdom or is it Jesus?

I believe there is one covenant, one kingdom, and one way. The Jewish people of today that reject Christ have no hope. Telling them anything else is a lie and a false comfort.

The kicker verse is Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. The idea is simple. No one deserves salvation. We are all disobedient. Only through accepting Jesus will we receive mercy. The idea that a Jew is somehow exempt from this requirement is a lie and a false comfort.

370 posted on 03/18/2016 2:40:46 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Mark17
My opinion is, Hell will be filled with "good people" who thought they were so good, that they went about trying to establish their own righteousness. Heaven, on the other hand, will be filled with "bad people" who were so bad, they recognized it, and fled to the savior for forgiveness.

Well stated. And it takes the Holy Spirit to regenerate a soul. An individual cannot save themselves because the spiritually dead dont know that they are dead until their eyes have been opened to the truth. Again, that is by the work of the Holy Spirit alone.
371 posted on 03/18/2016 2:52:11 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: ebb tide
Doesn’t mean anything. Nancy Pelosi claims she’s a Catholic. That doesn’t make her one.


Interesting I was raised a Catholic from infancy until I was redeemed by the Holy Spirit and fled that religion. And yet Catholics on FR still tell me once I am baptized as a Catholic, I am always a Catholic. Therefore, it must be true about Pelosi. Oh, and of course if I try to say anything on a Catholic caucus, suddenly they say that I'm not a Catholic. Very confusing, just like all the rules and regulations of the Catholic Church that are always changing over time.
372 posted on 03/18/2016 3:05:39 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: ebb tide
None of “you” are united, because outside the (Catholic) Church there is no salvation”.

You have no idea of the truth.
373 posted on 03/18/2016 3:12:11 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: Elsie
ALL of you Catholics are taught that you're NEVER saved, until your final judgement by Christ.

Even though the Bible speaks multiple times of having assurance of salvation. However, if you think it takes good works to contribute to your salvation, then it becomes a points based system. And you are never told how many points you need, so you never know if you've done enough. Fortunately Satan has led you to believe that there's still some place called Purgatory where you can work it off, or masses can be said that will reduce your time there. So relax.
374 posted on 03/18/2016 3:29:46 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; Cletus.D.Yokel

We can read and we read the history of the Catholic church in relation to the Jews.

There’s no weaseling out of it.

If Reformed theology as a whole stands condemend and is invalidated based on the opinions of one man, then all of Catholicism also stands condemned and invalidated based not only on the words, but also on the ACTIONS of a whole host of popes over many centuries.


375 posted on 03/18/2016 4:43:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Old Yeller

Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

When it suits them.


376 posted on 03/18/2016 4:51:04 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Cletus.D.Yokel
Not a single reformed Protestant on this thread has disagreed with the Lutheran's antisemitic post 19 " Luther agitated against the demonic cult known as Judaism. ," not a single one of you ...
377 posted on 03/18/2016 7:39:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

What in catholic mind is a ‘reformed protestant’?


378 posted on 03/18/2016 8:00:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Having condemned all antisemitism, I don’t feel any need to dance when you play music. As far as I’m concerned, that includes the 1741 years of Catholic antisemitism and its transmission to blessed father Luther.


379 posted on 03/18/2016 8:22:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: af_vet_1981

It seems to me this antisemitism defines Lutheranism and s a testimony to the Jews watching this thread that reformed theology is fatally flawed, born on an antisemitic foundation that persists to this day.


It DEFINES Lutheranism? Seriously?

Could you kindly point out where in the Lutheran Confessions this is defined? Thanks. http://bookofconcord.org/


380 posted on 03/18/2016 8:35:06 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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