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Time for the GOP to divorce the Christian right (The masks are coming off)
The Baxter Bulletin | December 30, 2015 | Joseph Cotto

Posted on 12/30/2015 1:03:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When one thinks about it, Christianity is an inherently left-wing religious system.

Christianity spawned wetsern civilization. The author of the piece even questions whether Jesus of Nazareth ever existed.

Even speaking on his level, he ignores the role that conservative Christians played in 1980, pretending that the influence didn't come up until the "mid-'80s". I was there. I know better.

We also know that thanks to the nomination of Romney, four-million conservative christians stayed home or voted third party. That is the given. Baxter wants to throw away four million votes. Why? He wants his flavor of conservatism, and if it has to come with moral baggage, he'll take his chances with the lefties.

I've got news for Mr. Baxter. The bulk of people with his viewpoint (excepting some right leaning libertarians) are aligned with the Establishment. WE are ejecting THEM. Baxter and company can dig up John B. Anderson and form a third party. There are plenty of people who support traditional morality who are not evangelicals, but are Catholics (like me), Orthodox, some Mormons, Orthodox Jews, main-liners who wondered who high-jacked their church, and people who aren't particularly religious but find it more agreeable to live in a society where people have certain values based on Natural Law, rooted in the particularly history of this country. I believe Mr. Trump belongs to those last two groups. I know that evangelical Senator Cruz is supportive of Catholic nuns' religious rights and the religious rights of Mormon businessmen and Jewish caterers as well.

Our Constitution was devised with a religious people in mind, we are not easily jettisoned. And Catholics like me don't believe in divorce.
21 posted on 12/30/2015 1:18:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: OpusatFR
This guy's profile says he understands history and then questions if Jesus Christ was a real person and then says he was a hippie in his time.

SMH

Jesus Christ was a real, historical person and he was NOT a hippie version so many want to make him out to be. He was a threat to the state, and surrounded by rebels and rabble-rousers. So much for being a self-proclaimed historian.

22 posted on 12/30/2015 1:22:06 PM PST by Solson (Grand Old Party 1854 - 2010 RIP.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My Dear Departed father used to say to me, “Once you make a decision, don’t look back.”

Good advice.

I won’t.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 1:26:00 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a Baron in Rwanda!

http://www.caglecartoons.com/archiveColumnist.asp?columnistID={C454C6D5-9EF7-497C-AD24-785B2802A67F}
“Joseph Ford Cotto, 1st Baron de Cotto, GCCCR hails from central Florida, writing about political, economic, and social issues of the day. In the past, he covered current events and style for The Washington Times’s Communities section, where he interviewed personalities ranging from Fmr. Ambassador John Bolton to Dionne Warwick. Cotto was also a writer for Blogcritics Magazine and Yahoo’s contributor network, among other publications. In 2014, H.M. King Kigeli V of Rwanda bestowed a hereditary knighthood upon him, which was followed by a barony the next year. Cotto recently completed a book about royalty in America.”


24 posted on 12/30/2015 1:31:03 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article is nonsense and carries no weight. I doubt you agree with its premise and I suspect you posted it as an example of nonsense anyway. I agree.


25 posted on 12/30/2015 1:33:30 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Fido969

Thank you for posting this. Saved me the time of clicking and reading the article.


26 posted on 12/30/2015 1:33:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Divorce! for abandonment, maybe.

The Christian has already left.


27 posted on 12/30/2015 1:37:56 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Fido969
I don't even think he's libertarian.

"About the Author

Joseph Cotto is a scholar and current events columnist from central Florida. Most often writing about cultural and political affairs, he is a member of the all-but-extinct Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party, taking conservative stances on fiscal and national security issues while being a staunch centrist on social matters. For several years, he was an accredited reporter for Wikinews, Wikipedia's news subsidiary. There, he covered major stories such as the 2008 presidential election and interviewed personalities ranging from former U.S. senators to filmmakers. He is currently working on his next book, which is about political philosophy in the twenty-first century."

How old is he, he doesn't look very old. Especially to be such a dismissive know-it-all.

28 posted on 12/30/2015 1:41:08 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christians could always announce their walkout on the GOPe first.


29 posted on 12/30/2015 1:45:08 PM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anybody else ever notice that, once out of office, neither Bush has ever said a syllable about abortion?


30 posted on 12/30/2015 1:51:09 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Fido969

“Guy looks like a gutless little fairy.”

Yep, like most gutless little fairies who look down on every day people who make this country work.


31 posted on 12/30/2015 2:09:59 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Irenic

You can’t be fiscally conservative and socially centrist/liberal.

They’re mutually exclusive.


32 posted on 12/30/2015 2:16:35 PM PST by Bratch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s official!! The Republican party is too stupid to live!!


33 posted on 12/30/2015 2:25:12 PM PST by Jean2 (ox)
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To: datura

“Only the dyed in the wool communists will vote for Hillary or the GOPe.”

Communists don’t vote GOP of any flavor.
But this isn’t the 1950s, either. Communists
aren’t the electoral problem, that honor
goes to the entitlement parasites who so
vastly outnumber hard core communists that
the latter doesn’t merit consideration.


34 posted on 12/30/2015 2:27:56 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Bratch

That is SO true.


35 posted on 12/30/2015 2:29:10 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The divorce is in litigation. Time will tell.


36 posted on 12/30/2015 2:30:33 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Bratch

I am fiscally conservative
and socially liberal. Now
that you’ve met one, you
can stow “there can’t be.”


37 posted on 12/30/2015 2:33:18 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: ColdOne

Trump certainly won’t heal the rift. Neither will Bush, Rubio, Christie, Kasich, or Fiorina.

I guess the big tent isn’t big enough for that key element.


38 posted on 12/30/2015 2:33:21 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: sparklite2

Fiscal conservatives believe the federal government should do less.

Social liberals believe the federal government should do more.

Mutually exclusive.


39 posted on 12/30/2015 2:35:34 PM PST by Bratch
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To: sport; 2ndDivisionVet
The divorce occurred at least 7 years ago.

WAY longer than that. They've been playing this !UP! the middle strategy ever since W left office (they got in with W.). MCain was a sworn enemy of the Right, Romney was a flat out communist. This has been here for a while.

40 posted on 12/30/2015 2:38:06 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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