Posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62
As one looks at the articles and comments found on Free Republic, you can see the complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims. It is viewed as a justified hatred, built on the actions Muslims have taken for decades against Americans and others. Notable attacks include the Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks, Beslan in Russia, the recent San Bernadino attack, and of course 9/11.
However, I was challenged by a few friends recently as to how a professing Christian can have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims. They reminded me of Jesus' command to love one another. They pointed out that He wasn't just talking about Christians loving other Christians (which can be difficult sometimes), but about Christians loving people in their communities...even those one may count as an enemy.
It's been pointed out to me that Christ's death on the cross wasn't just for me...it was also for the Muslim. He wants them to come to know Him as their Savior just as much as He wants us...or me...to. The problem they see is that someone won't want to come to know Christ if those who say they're His followers are in your face telling you that they hate you.
When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn't care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them, And, if that love had an element of risk associated with it, His followers were to love them anyway. A reminder of what that looks like can be seen in the story of the Christian men who ended up martyred by the Auca tribe in South America.
In any case, what they said is making me think. I want to know how one can reconcile a hatred for Muslims with Jesus' command to love people. It does seem that you can't do one and do the other as well. Yes...I am aware I may very well be opening up a huge can of worms, but this has been bugging me and I wanted to discuss it with my fellow FReepers.
I love what you said in post 9. Excellent.
I don’t know of any Christians that actually hate Muslims. Obviously there are plenty of Muslims who hate Christians and Jews, though. You don’t have to hate them to be protective of your family and yourself.
No one here hates muslims. They hate islam. Like hating communism, nazism, King George. Not that hard to distinguish.
If Islam motivates a muslim to want to kill us, then we have a problem with them. There is an inherent right of self defense, even for Christians. Preferably, instead of fighting them because they follow their religion, we should be actively working to convince them why their religion is phony, ridiculous and barbaric. However, that wouldn't be allowed in a morally relative age, so we must suffer them getting worse every generation.
TTFN.
There is a time when we must defend ourselves, Famlies, neighbors and our nation. I have defended this nation in a time of War and willing to do again.
Historically, every nation, including Christian nations, that adopted a wimpy view toward Islam was annihilated.
Nowhere does the Bible teach that God’s people are simply to bow their necks, and the necks of their children, to evil.
I don’t hate them.
I just don’t trust them.
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When did you convert to Islam?
1 John 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
A Christian loves the person not the hate filled religion that is there faith. The Muslim religion is a belief system and it is a the mistake to view it as something that is Protected from scrutiny or judgment. People that profess this religion have made a choice about what they believe or have been brought up by there parents to believe this theology and we as Christians have a responsibility to stand up and call them out on how evil there religion actually is. just because we believe that a person is fallowing an evil and twisted theology does not mean we hate the people fallowing it. I don’t hate the people in the religion I just think that there religious beliefs are evil and don’t leave room in this world for others to believe differently.
I don’t have a deep hatred for muslims but I believe that they follow the death cult of an anti-Christ figure. He denied the divinity of Jesus and led the flock astray.
Do you believe Mormons follow true biblical teachings and no cultist literature? “New truths revealed to ME!”
Mohammed was the same way.
Do we submit to the forces of evil, let them overrun us? Or do we stand and fight for the righteous liberty of men?
The question is not whether we will benefit, as we will be long gone when the question reaches its apex. The question is whether the generation after next will curse us for not stopping Islam while it could be stopped.
I would suggest that to fret about 'our Christian values' will seem a quaint concern sooner, rather than later.
Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Matthew 16:23 - But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Is it okay to hate Communists and those who attempt to usher it into the West to enslave us all?
Are we not commanded to fight evil?
There you go.
Just because we are to love sinners individually, that does not mean we have to love the sins they may commit, nor the belief system that leads many holding it to commit unspeakable acts of violence and bloodshed or else to tacitly support or condone such.
Esau’s - that “Wild ass of a man(’s)” - more benevolent reconciliation with Jacob complicates the issue a bit. Rather than being, “...greatly afraid and (was) distressed”, might Jacob not have thought of some other plan than dividing his camp to deal with the possible threat?
It’s good that Esau turned out to be so magnanimous...which gives me pause in how to deal with his progeny.
Yet, after all, in time the Hebrews became like Joshua, guaranteeing themselves their place in history. As I deem it now necessary to be, such that that sense of history be preserved.
We can pray they will be delivered from their death cult and be saved.
I do this often.
But I don’t want them in my country if they’re not.
Evil is evil.
The problem is not muslims per se. They are deceived by Satan. The problem is Islam. Islam is the Religion of Satan. There is no more evil religion ever conceived. Those who are Muslims are in great need of conversion to Christ.
What we do not need in this country is a hoard of believers in Islam. They should only be allowed to come to America if they have left Islam. We, as Christians, should resist any attempt to have them invade our nation. Until they return the Hagia Sofia to the Eastern Orthodox Church and there is a Catholic Cathedral, a Buddhist Shrine and a Jewish Temple in Mecca, they should have no right to immigrate to America.
For myself, I don’t hate Muslims, but I do hate Islam in the same way God hated Ba’al, who is Allah, and the same as the false religion of Babylon. Telling the truth about what Muslims believe and how they feel about non believers isn’t hate. I’ve known Muslims who I considered to be good people, but I was more naive then, and now I won’t trust any Muslim, no matter how peaceful they may seem to be. Who I will trust are Muslims who have repented and turned to Jesus.
Let me ask you, would these people who open their arms to Muslims do the same thing for Satanists? Would they do the same thing if this government allowed hundreds of thousands of Satanists to immigrate here? Maybe they would, but I bet it would give them pause. Yet Islam is Satan’s religion, Mystery Babylon, not only symbolically, as in the crescent moon and star, but in the murder, violence and disregard for human life that Satan’s religion has had since its beginnings. Before you allow your well meaning Christian friends to convince you Islam is just another religion whose believers are mostly peaceful, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ
There’s a difference between hatred and informed wariness. I agree with the other posters in this thread - don’t buy into the liberal propaganda that conservatives “hate” Muslims.
Taking sensible precautions against undue risk is not hating people.
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