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Presbyterian Church (USA) Holds First Gay Wedding at National Office
Christian Post ^ | 09/18/2015 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 09/18/2015 11:44:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The national office for the mainline denomination Presbyterian Church (USA), located in Louisville, Kentucky.

The largest Presbyterian denomination in the United States recently hosted a same-sex wedding at its national office in Louisville, Kentucky.

An official with Presbyterian Church (USA) officiated a wedding last Thursday between Paul Kempf and Robb Gwaltney at the Presbyterian Center's chapel.

A PC(USA) spokesperson told The Christian Post that the ceremony had "perhaps 25 people in attendance, a combination of family and friends, along with a few staff."

Gregg Brekke of the Presbyterian News Service wrote "… the ceremony [was conducted] by the Rev. David Maxwell, an editor at the Presbyterian Publishing Corporation.

"Kempf has been an employee of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) since 2012 and Gwaltney is a former employee who helped plan and oversee the PC(USA) move to Louisville in 1988."

Over the past several years, PC(USA) has become increasingly accepting of homosexuality and gay marriage, as seen with major policy changes on sexual ethics.

At the PC(USA)'s 219th General Assembly held in July 2010, the denomination voted to allow regional bodies, or presbyteries, to ordain noncelibate homosexuals.

Earlier this year, a supermajority of PC(USA) presbyteries approved Amendment 14-F, which changed the denomination's definition of marriage from that of "a man and a woman" to "two people, traditionally a man and a woman."

However this increased acceptance of homosexuality has come at a price, as over 200 member congregations have ended their affiliation with the denomination over the issue.

Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the theologically conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee, told CP that the national office hosting the wedding was an inflammatory action.

"I see it as an in-your-face act designed to make a public and political statement that the PC(USA) is pro-gay marriage, alternative views be damned," said LaBerge.

"No one should be honestly shocked nor surprised by the news that the PC(USA) hosted a same-sex wedding at this national Chapel. But yes, it will further fuel the conversation in churches currently discerning their denominational future."

LaBerge also questioned the legitimacy of the ceremony given that, according to W-4.9003 of the PC(USA) Book of Order, "the marriage service is under the direction of the teaching elder and the supervision of the session."

"The Presbyterian Mission Agency Board is neither. So, one of my questions would be, who authorized the wedding? The PMAB had the authority to authorize the use of the facility, but not the wedding."

"One would assume that the two men whose wedding was held at the Chapel at The Presbyterian Center in Louisville have a home church. Why not get married in the context of the worshiping community where they are members?" questioned LaBerge.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; gaywedding; hellinahandbasket; kentucky; lgbt; louisville; pcusa; presbyterian

1 posted on 09/18/2015 11:44:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The national office for the mainline denomination Presbyterian Church (USA), located in Louisville, Kentucky.
2 posted on 09/18/2015 11:44:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

A apostate group commits a grievous sin?

Nothing new here.


3 posted on 09/18/2015 11:47:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: SeekAndFind

They keep digging their own grave.


4 posted on 09/18/2015 11:49:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: AppyPappy; SeekAndFind
Said the "mister" who "married" them: The concept of biblical marriage is very different [from] our modern views," said Pastor David Maxwell, who also presided over their wedding. "No biblical writer would have envisioned what we think of as a good marriage today—with concepts of equality and mutuality."Source

What we have here is folks who think the Bible was written by man to explain God. Not authored by God for man.

5 posted on 09/18/2015 11:53:01 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: SeekAndFind

I have neighbors whose church dropped their association over this and are now being dragged through a lawsuit while they try to retain the property they paid for.


6 posted on 09/18/2015 11:55:28 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind
Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the theologically conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee, told CP that the national office hosting the wedding was an inflammatory action.

"I see it as an in-your-face act designed to make a public and political statement that the PC(USA) is pro-gay marriage, alternative views be damned," said LaBerge.

The same reason was involve in the judge nullifying Utah's marriage amendment a couple of years ago, the first to fall after Windsor. Make an crass example of conservatives at the most visible level.

7 posted on 09/18/2015 11:58:09 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Gamecock

Jud 1:4-8
(4) For some godless people have slipped in unnoticed among us, persons who distort the message about the grace of our God in order to excuse their immoral ways, and who reject Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord. Long ago the Scriptures predicted the condemnation they have received.
(5) For even though you know all this, I want to remind you of how the Lord once rescued the people of Israel from Egypt, but afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
(6) Remember the angels who did not stay within the limits of their proper authority, but abandoned their own dwelling place: they are bound with eternal chains in the darkness below, where God is keeping them for that great Day on which they will be condemned.
(7) Remember Sodom and Gomorrah, and the nearby towns, whose people acted as those angels did and indulged in sexual immorality and perversion: they suffer the punishment of eternal fire as a plain warning to all.
(8) In the same way also, these people have visions which make them sin against their own bodies; they despise God’s authority and insult the glorious beings above.


8 posted on 09/18/2015 11:58:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They obviously ignored the fact that God was watching the proceedings as well .. and taking notes.


9 posted on 09/18/2015 12:00:19 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

That is very common across the US right now.


10 posted on 09/18/2015 12:06:53 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: SeekAndFind

The bagpipes and kilts doubtlessly poisoned the minds of the sheeple to start committing sodomy. Any phallic image is a good one to the PCUSA, I guess.


11 posted on 09/18/2015 12:07:23 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies.
Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them;
and the peace offerings of your fattened animals, I will not look upon them.
Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen.
But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.” (Amos 5)


12 posted on 09/18/2015 12:15:28 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear PCUSA, what next? maybe you will roll around in a big bucket of pig sh*t?

your effort at discrediting Christian faith is, most regrettably, getting to be quite successful


13 posted on 09/18/2015 12:38:10 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: SeekAndFind

Apostate false prophets, who call God a liar, claiming He didn’t say something He said, and claiming He said something He didn’t say. Christ said they’re delusional about their salvation in Matt. 7:21-23. Unless they repent.


14 posted on 09/18/2015 12:39:54 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: Gamecock

Is this a forerunner of the “abomination of desolation” that is to happen in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem? Is there anything more of a desolation than the abdomination of homosexual “marriage”?


15 posted on 09/18/2015 12:41:04 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Gamecock

What took them so long, were they too busy with their anti Isreal activities?


16 posted on 09/18/2015 12:43:53 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: SeekAndFind

Kentucky is becomng a rival moral cesspool to ilinois.


17 posted on 09/18/2015 4:09:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

uh-oh


18 posted on 09/18/2015 5:01:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remove the name church from this group.


19 posted on 09/18/2015 5:24:59 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

I love revolutions, you get to make all your own rules afterward.....Bible?????who needs it, we’ll do things our way!!


20 posted on 09/18/2015 6:29:06 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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