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Truth and Tolerance: Why the Church Can’t Change Her Teaching
Catholic Exchange ^ | July 28, 2015 | SAM GUZMAN

Posted on 07/29/2015 2:31:41 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/29/2015 2:31:41 PM PDT by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 07/29/2015 2:32:06 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer

You can’t lead people to heaven by taking a few sight-seeing tours past hell first.


3 posted on 07/29/2015 2:39:51 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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God is intolerant towards sin. Just saying.


4 posted on 07/29/2015 3:08:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Hillary is as believable as Sharknado 3. Oh Hell No!)
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To: BipolarBob; NYer

“Few Americans hate the Catholic Church, but millions hate what they think is the Catholic Church.” —Bishop Fulton Sheen


5 posted on 07/29/2015 3:26:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
Jesus made it pretty clear that He is intolerant of other forms of beliefs in John 14:6. Keep the focus on Christ and not a man-made institution like the rcc or any other denomination.

. The rcc has changed its positions many times as previously noted on the RF which I will not go into again at this time.

6 posted on 07/29/2015 4:06:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Think of how much life would be easier if we got to change the rules as we went along!!!.....like divorce and remarriage....


7 posted on 07/29/2015 4:16:07 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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What should be of great concern to the Catholic laity is if their clergy are in variance. It’s not just the priest and the bishop who are in trouble with heaven if they are
anarcho-socialist-communist-atheist-homosexual-Wiccans.

Everyone they minister to are denied every sacrament they offer. No righteousness flows through them in either direction.

In the seventh session of the Council of Trent (1545-1563), it was determined that if a priest “did not intend to ‘do as the Church does,’ in granting sacraments”, then the sacraments are not valid.

Si quis dixerit, in ministris, dum sacramenta conficiunt et conferunt, no requiri intentionem saltem faciendi quod facit ecclesia; anathema sit.— Can. xi. sess. vii., Canones et Decreta Conc. Trid., p. 43., Lipsiae, 1863. [Council of Trent, 7th Session, March 3rd, 1547, On the Sacraments in General - Canon 11.]

It is described as “one of the most curious and dreadful doctrines in Catholicism.” So Catholics are in severe danger if their clergy are not faithful to the scriptures and doctrines of the church.

Which makes you wonder about the current Pope.


8 posted on 07/29/2015 4:18:47 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Christ and not a man-made institution

Christ was THE man who founded the Catholic church

9 posted on 07/29/2015 4:22:57 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: terycarl

Jesus Christ, God with us, fully man and fully God.


10 posted on 07/29/2015 4:24:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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it was determined that if a priest “did not intend to ‘do as the Church does,’ in granting sacraments”, then the sacraments are not valid.

But they do intend to do as the church does....their personal weaknesses and possible sinful behavior have nothing to so with anything. A priest, in a state of mortal sin is still a priest...

11 posted on 07/29/2015 4:29:19 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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“The rcc has changed its positions many times as previously noted on the RF which I will not go into again at this time”.

Not on faith and morals. The teachings of Christ do not change.


12 posted on 07/29/2015 4:52:13 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Christ founded the church.....the ekklesia. Not the roman catholic church.


13 posted on 07/29/2015 5:23:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet

True, the teachings of Christ don’t change nor will they change. But the rcc has changed as previously noted.


14 posted on 07/29/2015 5:25:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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The Catholic Church positions on faith and morals have not changed. Been the same way for 2,000 years. There will never be women priests, abortion, or sodomite “marriage”. Homosexuality acts will never be condoned. It’s not happening. Now if you want to see these things in a “church” there are many protestant faiths
where you can see all of it you want.


15 posted on 07/29/2015 5:31:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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“It may well be that we have lived out the disease. It may well be that we are on the threshold of a time when Catholic unity will return. Certainly that is the only hope for our civilization. But on the other hand there is a possibility of yet greater peril, of a yet increased decline in our culture. In that case the high tradition of Europe will have to stand at siege again, as it did in the Dark Ages: restricted to some small body which shall still maintain the unbroken Catholic culture.”

—Hilaire Belloc: “A Companion to HG Wells’s ‘Outline of History’ “


16 posted on 07/29/2015 8:14:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Homosexuality acts will never be condoned.

There's a homosexual mafia of cardinals at the Vatican...Queer priests, bishop and cardinals 'boink' young boys and then are shifted to other areas in your religion to continue their perversions if the heat starts coming down...

Of course homosexual acts are condoned in your religion...

17 posted on 07/29/2015 8:48:47 PM PDT by Iscool
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There are NO openly homosexual priests at the Vatican or anywhere else. If a priest is found to be practicing homosexuality he is breaking his vows and will not be around very long. This is fact. If you want to find homosexuals in a faith go to your nearest Episcopal Church and you’ll find openly “married” homosexual pastors preaching and also openly lesbians pretending to be “pastors”. And the sad thing about Methodists, Presbyterians and Episcopalians or any other protestant faith that condones homosexuals they are completely out in the open and their church praises them and says God approves of sodomy. Do yourself a favor and worry about protestant faiths that have sold out to the devil before you start slamming the Catholic CHurch.


18 posted on 07/29/2015 9:00:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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“Of course homosexual acts are condoned in your religion...”

I think lying is against the rules.

So in order to be kind to you, I’m going to posit that you are just ignorant.


19 posted on 07/30/2015 6:13:53 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: NKP_Vet

Thank you.


20 posted on 07/30/2015 4:44:47 PM PDT by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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