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To: muir_redwoods
Despite your whining

Who's whining? I have no issue with the Bible, what it says or what it teaches. I believe it. I'm a Christian.

You are the one who came along and indicated some 2,500 flaws -- all I did was ask you to prove the flaws. You made the issue, not me. It's not up to me to prove anything to you. Personally, the very fact that we are alive is a miracle -- and the fact we are alive is proof to me. I know that most likely won't appeal to your high sense of logic and education -- it's not meant to.

Now, there is a major issue that hasn't been voiced, and that is the fact that we all have need of a savior. You do too, whether you believe it now or not. Have you actually read the Bible? Or do you just like to carp about it? The fact that this seems so important to you could be an indication that God is working on your heart....that's why I wanted you to prove your claims... we could at least discuss these issues.

God exists. We wouldn't exist without him.... the odds of lightning striking a puddle and cause life to progress against the law of Entropy requires it. How do eyes, one of the arguably most complex organs, evolve up into more complexity while avoiding Occam's Razor?

Do you know God? Have you sought to meet him in the pages of the Bible and through prayer? Would you like to? It seems to me this concern of yours with truth and fact is a good thing -- what would make it best would be the knowledge of the truth of God and the salvation he offers through the shed blood of his Son Jesus Christ.

Let's talk about that....

Hoss (either end you prefer)

55 posted on 06/18/2015 4:54:48 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

So you’ve reached this point in your life still unclear on the differences between faith and logic? You can claim to believe the bible but you cannot, reasonably claim you believe it because it is logical. Our everyday empirical experience tells us no one walks on water. No one comes back from the grave. No one is born from a virgin. Logic tells us that the sun was never stopped in the sky since it is the earth that rotates; to claim the sun stopped is an error. To claim the existence of four legged winged things is an error. To call bats, birds is an error. To give two conflicting stories of the origin of Eve is an error. There are lots more; do your own research.

I need no savior, I was born just fine the first time.


58 posted on 06/18/2015 10:55:33 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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