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To: HossB86

So you’ve reached this point in your life still unclear on the differences between faith and logic? You can claim to believe the bible but you cannot, reasonably claim you believe it because it is logical. Our everyday empirical experience tells us no one walks on water. No one comes back from the grave. No one is born from a virgin. Logic tells us that the sun was never stopped in the sky since it is the earth that rotates; to claim the sun stopped is an error. To claim the existence of four legged winged things is an error. To call bats, birds is an error. To give two conflicting stories of the origin of Eve is an error. There are lots more; do your own research.

I need no savior, I was born just fine the first time.


58 posted on 06/18/2015 10:55:33 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods; Gamecock; RnMomof7; metmom; CynicalBear; Springfield Reformer; daniel1212
I need no savior, I was born just fine the first time.

And for this statement alone, I pity you more than I think I have ever pitied a human being that I've known. Sincerely.

You weren't born "just fine" -- none of us were. What exactly is the point of living for you? What is the ultimate point? What is your raison d'être? But beyond that, what is the ultimate reason that the human race exists?

Do you believe in the theory of evolution?

How does logic tell us these things you claim? You continually make these claims of the lack of logic, then fail continually to explain how they fail... instead you direct me to "do your own research."

If you are so very, very sure of all of your claims, then support them here. Explain your positions. Demonstrate the faults you have found. I find your lack of willingness to do this very telling as to the veracity of your claim.

Yet, I'm glad you are still replying because that means there is still opportunity for me and others to present to you the Gospel... the truth of why we were made, why we are fallen and why we need a Savior.

Please explain and clarify all of these issues that apparently have caused me to be deluded... show me the logic. Show us all the logic here.

Hoss

60 posted on 06/18/2015 12:31:43 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Logic” tells us lots of things, that aren’t necessarily so. Logic tells us what a hypothetical would should be like but doesn’t explain the real world that is.

And logic cannot explain the illogical.

So just what if your basis for truth, if you’re going to tell someone they are in error?

It must be nice to be perfect. How do you manage in such an imperfect world?


64 posted on 06/18/2015 3:53:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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