[9thLife]

There’s more to this story than Ireland. Ireland was a pawn in the movement to legitimize gay marriage in the US.

[FateAmenableToChange]

That last sentence is a work of art.

[nathanbedford]

The analysis is flawed because it fails to explain Ireland in any terms other than cloth and anticlericalism. There is another cancer which has grown in Ireland for a century, communism or at least Marxism which contributed so much to the secularization of the island.

[Paulie]

Very sad. Very sad indeed.

[Sirius Lee]

An unexceptional country floating somewhere in the waters off a continent that has long since entered into cultural decline, demographic winter, and the petty and perpetual discontents that come free of charge to every people that lives for nothing much in particular.

[Dr. Sivana]

This same thing happened to Quebec 45 years ago under Pierre Elliot Trudeau.

[oh8eleven]

The economy was expanding, the “ribbon effect,” or suburban sprawl was spreading out around Dublin and Galway, and the restaurants, bars, and hotels were staffed by immigrant workers, most of them from Eastern Europe.
In order to "save costs," my company opened up a call center in Dublin for help with our digital products. It was staffed by the same workers.
In short order, we discovered they had no work ethic, were damned near untrainable, and caused more problems than they resolved.
In less than a year we shut it down.

[Buckeye McFrog]

My brother’s Irish expat in-laws say the country started hurtling down the moral crapper the day they joined the EU.

[Jeff Chandler]

A prime minister brought his concubine to dinner with the Archbishop; it created a sensation rather than a scandal.

The Catholic hierarchy has utterly failed the entire Western world.

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"Bravo!"

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"Who am I to judge?"

[dbehsman]

There's an unattributed quote someone left in the comments at the site, that I think bears repeating.

“What can a man - dominated by his appetites - understand of
higher things? He is coerced, by his willfulness (which is a symptom of spiritual disorder) to dismiss the higher because he is given over to
his appetites. He cannot respond to the reasoning of another
because he can no longer respond even to his own reason, having smothered it by the darkness of sin.”

This explains a lot.

[Does so]

This started a long time ago, when families were expected to “grant” one of their children to the church. A family might have selected an effeminate male, thinking that they’d be unlikely to produce more children or grandchildren—unknowing of the consequences to the future.

[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

There is no mystery to this. Ireland, like most of the rest of Europe, is a secular statist society. And so is the U.S. Not much to analyze. Unfortunate, but true.

[pepsi_junkie]

“Catholic Ireland’s dead and gone, it’s with De Valera in the grave.”

Hmmm, so embracing homesexuality is viewed as spurning catholicism. In that case is Pope Francis still catholic?

[Zionist Conspirator]

In the subsequent decades, Irish politics was marked by a persistence of nationalist ambition to make Ireland in actuality what it has long been regarded as being: a distinctively Catholic republic that would stand outside the main tendencies of western Europe toward secularization, economic liberalization, and, later, the welfare state.

What nonsense. With the "flight of the wild geese" and the departure of the traditional aristocracy Irish nationalism had become by the late eighteenth century a thoroughly leftist, anti-religious, Jacobinical nationalism. The Irish arch-hero Wolfe Tone was a Jacobin who championed Catholics for the same reason liberals championed Jews for so long . . . to "prove" that religion doesn't really matter. Tone was an atheist (or at least an agnostic) who wanted the utter disestablishment of religion. And for what it's worth, he was anti-American as well, considering the new American republic as much worse than traditional European aristocracy.

Then of course there was James Connolly, the Communist "martyr" of Irish nationalism and his ideological descendants among all (no exceptions) the Irish Republican groups today. The "official" IRA went Communist in the 60s and now all its splinter groups are as well. Sinn Fein has been pushing sodomy for years.

I hope the Ancient Order of Hibernians is happy with the result. They've been apologists for Communist terrorism in Ireland for years.