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Christian churches ‘must be made’ to affirm homosexuality, says New York Times columnist
https://www.lifesitenews.com ^ | April 7, 2015 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 04/09/2015 9:34:44 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Any Church that allows its doctrines to be manipulated by the government is not a Church. But then again the “Church” is the Body of Christ, not a denomination or a building.


61 posted on 04/10/2015 5:41:19 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (What's good for Christianity might not be good for your 401K)
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To: DungeonMaster

Rom 13:1-3 Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God. (2) So that the one resisting the authority resists the ordinance of God; and the ones who resist will receive judgment to themselves. (3) For the rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the bad. And do you desire to be not afraid of the authority? Do the good, and you shall have praise from it.

Note: That’s not in my handwriting.


62 posted on 04/10/2015 5:49:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Thanks for your opinion, Mr. Bruni and Mr. Gold. The Orthodox Church in all it’s varieties says no.


63 posted on 04/10/2015 5:50:13 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: AppyPappy
1Cor6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Then there is the whole book of Acts and all of the "powers that be" persecuting the Church. The Apostles defied them and rightly so. Yet I bet the apostles drove the speed limit and didn't steal or murder but obeyed those lower laws.

The very government and chosen people He created got it all wrong at the fake trial and crucifixion didn't they. So it seems we are to submit to the laws but not where they concern doctrine.

64 posted on 04/10/2015 6:59:42 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (What's good for Christianity might not be good for your 401K)
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To: DungeonMaster

“The very government and chosen people He created got it all wrong at the fake trial and crucifixion didn’t they. “

Or did they get it right?


65 posted on 04/10/2015 7:07:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NKP_Vet
God will not affirm it.

Genesis 1

English Standard Version (ESV)

26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

27 So God created man in his own image,
    in the image of God he created him;
    male and female he created them.

28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


66 posted on 04/10/2015 7:17:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: faithhopecharity

Their point is they want you to validate their sinful behavior.

If we can decide on our own what sin is and what laws or commandments we should obey, what will be next?


67 posted on 04/10/2015 7:32:45 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: uscga77

Luke 12:48

But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]. For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required; and of him to whom men entrust much, they will require and demand all the more.

Who’s been entrusted more than America? God blessed us with the greatest Nation that has ever been.Great wealth, great freedom. And what have Christians gave back in return? We’ve sat on our hands while others spit in his face all over again. We elect the “lesser of to evils,” which is still evil by the way ( that’s for you freepers who love to tell us a lesser evil republican is better than a more evil Democrat ). I could go on, but everyone gets the point.

We are going to be disciplined first, by God. It’s happening already. He’s giving us opportunities to stand up and fight and we still keep sitting on our hands. Then the persecution will start, and it looks like it’s coming quickly. We better start selling our cloaks for swords if get what I’m saying.


68 posted on 04/10/2015 9:08:28 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: smokingfrog

If we can decide on our own what sin is and what laws or commandments we should obey, what will be next?


You will be as gods, knowing (deciding) good and evil.

The point of the homos is to have their sins validated and for there to be no hint in society that what they are doing is wrong. That requires the elimination of Christian values. And that’s where they play into the hands of the bigger agenda.

If homo “marriage” weren’t the sticking point for Christians, the left would find something else that was - child sacrifice, beastiality, cannibalism, etc,
and when Christians resisted, that resistance would be criminalized.


69 posted on 04/10/2015 9:12:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NKP_Vet

I think this is the “war on women” for the 2016 election cycle. Note the massive, completely off the charts increase in homosexual “discrimination” coverage in the media and courts - searching and even creating conflict to highlight the “extreme views” of Christians. They intend to shame a large percentage of Christians into changing their views (long term) and not voting for “homophobes” (short term) on the right. I first thought the focus was going to be the “black lives matter” narrative, but that is backfiring on them, as Ferguson hurt the left with the average American more than they are willing to admit. Note that the latest shooting victim’s family supposedly told Sharpton to stay away from the funeral.

As others have pointed out, they are not targeting Muslims or religious Jews, who generally have similar beliefs with regard to homosexuality - sometimes extreme in the case of islam.

This is the time to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak. The real Bible Believers need to stand strong and united with what God’s Word teaches, and for the rights guaranteed by the Constitution.


70 posted on 04/10/2015 10:26:02 AM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Lil Flower

Last week returning from Easter worship I saw a billboard: Church should be fun. My warm feelings turned sour. One of the non-denom churches in town looking to draw a bigger crowd. Read about the church in places like Syria and China. There is a devotion to Christ and his Word that puts us to shame. The world is not worthy of them. But fun? Is taking up your cross, denying self fun? Is walking upstream against the culture fun? And so, many will walk away when the fun is over. Yet it’s a blessed thing to follow Christ because we know in whom we believe. A living Savior who gives us a living hope.


71 posted on 04/10/2015 11:56:58 AM PDT by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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To: uscga77

Well said.


72 posted on 04/10/2015 4:49:16 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Nextrush
Gays are perfectly and more than willing to be ‘used’ for political purposes....they bask in it as is their nature to thrive on attention of any kind.

Remember they have chosen to turn their back on God and indulge their disgusting ‘behavior’.

73 posted on 04/10/2015 6:58:06 PM PDT by caww
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