Posted on 03/28/2015 12:18:26 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
On Easter Day (April 5th, 2015), faithful Christians will celebrate the resurrection of Jesus bodily from death.
Later on this year, faithful Christians will also (on August 15th, 2015) celebrate the resurrection of Mary the mother of Jesus (before her body could see decay) and her Assumption into heaven.
With the shows on CNN (Finding Jesus: Faith, Fact and Forgery) and O'Reilly's book, "Killing Jesus" on television (both this Sunday), there seems to be an uptick in the interest on the life of Jesus, the Apostles and early followers of Jesus - as well as Mary's role, too.
What problem?
No.
I will be observing the Feast of the Resurrection on April 12th (Easter on the Traditional Calendar). With regards the Assumption of the Most Holy Theotokos, that is a theologoumenon, although not an especially controversial one. We commemorate the Dormition (or Falling Asleep) of the Virgin Mary on August 15th. The feast is preceded by the traditional two week fast.
(Matt 12:48-50)So, ascribing special place to Mary is explicitly rebelling against the King who has declared that
But to the one who had told him this, Jesus[d] replied, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”(Luke 8:20-21)
And he was told, “Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you.”
But he said to them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.”(Mark 3:33-35)
And he replied, “Who are my mother and my brothers?” And looking at those who sat around him, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother.”
whoeverdoes the will of the Father is His mother, and brother, and sister. — One can either accept the King's decree or reject it, there is no middle ground.
This is true, though it is a bit misleading.
Luther affirmed Mary as Theotokos, but θεοτόκος means "bearer of God," as opposed to θεομήτωρ, which AFAIK Luther never affirmed. All Christians believe Mary was the bearer of God, since God the Son was both borne by her and born from her, and that she was blessed by having received this gift.
It is also true that Luther himself believed that Mary was perpetually virgin, but that has not been the stance of Lutheran churches since. Here is the relevant pull quote from the LCMS:
"There has been some dispute regarding the relationship between Jesus and James, the natural interpretation being that James was the son of Mary and Joseph (thus a "half-brother" to Jesus). In the history of the Christian church, some believing in the perpetual virginity of Mary developed the view that Jesus and James were foster brothers, while others conjectured that they were cousins. LCMS theologians have found no difficulty with the view that Mary and Joseph themselves together had other children, including James." (http://www.lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=546)
Perhaps, perhaps not.
Maybe it was Jesus taking care of widows and orphans like James says is true religion.
You left out the Latin Vulgate.
Actually there are many translations of the Bible.
It's on-topic -- Her continued 'good standing' with the Catholic church is a disgrace.
I did mean that anyone criticizing Cruz this week over nonsensical things out if panic
But that's not what you said.
If you criticize the church you have to know it is criticizing 2000 yrs of theology
No -- I can criticize the Catholic church for teaching idolatry (e.g. the prayer to Mary) and rebelling against Jesus's words (see post #64).
Like criticizing Cruz’s position is criticizing the constitution
Cruz is an Ivy League lawyer, while he might not be as 'infected' as other political elite that certainly taints his understanding of the Constitution. (Nobody seriously/honestly studying the Constitution could seriously give weight to the current view of the commerce clause as so blatantly displayed as the War on Drugs1, and likewise nobody could hold the doctrine of [14th Amendment incorporation] as valid.2)
And yet much [most?] of the burgeoning and bloated federal government rests on these.
1 -- The view that's used in the War on Drugs is that congress may regulate intrastate commerce through the interstate commerce clause, not only that but non-commerce as well. The ACA is a direct outgrowth of that sort of reasoning
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2 -- The incorporation of the First Amendment against the states illustrates this point: the first amendment explicitly lays constraints specifically on the Congress; in order for the first to be applied to the States [which do not have Congresses] the text must be altered, it is deemed to have been done so by the judiciary as if the black-robed god-kings can magically alter the Constitution w/o amendment.
You are putting down the Mother of Jesus Christ, true God and true human?
Would you put down your own mother in that way?
You assume a lot if you believe Mary “ascended” to heaven.
All those VERSIONS of the bible say Jesus was resurrected from the dead, none of those VERSIONS of the bible say Mary was resurrected from the dead.
So where in the bible does it say Mary was resurrected from the dead? Answer nowhere! Mary’s body decayed just like every other sinners body.
CNSNews.com asked Archbishop Cordileone about Pelosi’s comments on human life, particularly in light her self-description “as a Catholic and a mom of five.”
“It is a scientific fact that human life begins at conception,” the archbishop said in a written statement to CNSNews.com. “This has been established in medical science for over 100 years. Catholic moral teaching acknowledges this scientific fact, and has always affirmed the grave moral evil of taking an innocent human life.
“This has been the consistent teaching of the Church from the very beginning, a teaching already discernible in the natural moral law, and so a teaching from which no Catholic can dissent in good conscience,” he said.
What do you want him to do? Are you looking for decapitation ?
You cannot tell the players without a program.
Here is an explanation of the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.
https://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/AOFMARY.HTM
I am not a catholic. Nor do I think Mary is any more special than anyone’s mom.
According to this story the assumption of Mary was her body; there was no resurrection.
So...if you want to learn what it’s about...go read the link. It’s from EWTN, so it’s written for easy reading.
Better question: What’s the use of decapitation when the potential condemned is the poster child for “lights on, but nobody’s home”?
I don’t celebrate pagan religious concepts from Babylon. I celebrate Resurrection of my LORD Day.
The Assumption of Mary has nothing to do with resurrection.
It comes from the story where the emperor called for Mary’s relics to be sent to him. The folks in Jerusulem looked and could not find any. They knew she died. They knew where her tomb was. They opened and there was no remains there.
While this is not where the term comes from, they “assumed” she was taken into heaven body and soul. So they are saying she got the express card trip to the hereafter, while we have to wait for the resurrection.
I guess that’s not a bad deal for getting pregnant by God and raising his kid.
> You are putting down the Mother of Jesus Christ, true God and true human?
That’s funny; those words are Jesus’s own as testified to by members of the twelve.
Who are you to say that such is “putting down” Mary?
> Would you put down your own mother in that way?
I wouldn’t deify her in the first place.
An actual real excommunication would be nice.
Oh, I wasn’t suggesting it, jost wondering if that’s what people are looking for with their,”where’s the condemnation from the Church’?
You know...
And what does that look like?
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