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Presbyterian Church (USA): Where God Loves Abortion and Hates Israel
National Review ^ | 03/20/2015 | David French

Posted on 03/20/2015 6:33:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; apostasy; homosexualagenda; israel; leftism; liberalism; marriage; modernism; pcusa; presbyterian; religiousleft
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1 posted on 03/20/2015 6:33:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Devastatingly spot on!


2 posted on 03/20/2015 6:39:36 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s hard to imagine how Romans 1:24-32 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 are being “taken out of context.”


3 posted on 03/20/2015 6:44:27 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My new tag line.


4 posted on 03/20/2015 6:45:54 AM PDT by Mercat (no-fault divorce means that a marriage covenant is less binding than a refrigerator warranty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Modern Israel is not equal to the Israel of scripture. Modern Israel is an unsaved nation, having rejected Jesus Christ.

Having said that, PCUSA embraced progressive higher criticism a century ago. In doing so the church has declined dramatically. They have all but rejected their founding statement of faith: The Westminster Confession. They’ve been ordaining women, embracing abortion, sex out of marriage, divorce, sodomy, homosexual marriage and rejecting substantial portions of scripture (6 day creation, Mary’s virgin birth, Christ’s literal resurrection) for decades.


5 posted on 03/20/2015 6:46:00 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil

What’s an unsaved nation? If there is such a thing, the United States seems to qualify too. God has plans that include Israelis. Even now, many are turning to Yeshua, more than are currently willing to go public, I might add. The Spirit is at work.


6 posted on 03/20/2015 6:53:22 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

Yup.


7 posted on 03/20/2015 6:53:45 AM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This explains why I can’t stand the doctrines/politics of the one Presby I know.


8 posted on 03/20/2015 6:54:04 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: DungeonMaster

PCUSA is not the only denomination with the P word in its name. There are some others (PCA comes to mind) that still adhere to classic Reformed dogma.


9 posted on 03/20/2015 6:55:38 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

America is circling the drain, they make it look in the movies like we’re all good when we’re not. The real story about employment would be more depressing than a Film Noir, and the fact about the National Debt is that given what passes as policy, the government is never going to leave the deficit behind and is never going to pay off the debt. By the constant deficit spending, our government is running a ponzi scheme and throwing everything but the right solution on the fire, sometimes, they are throwing alcohol on the fire maybe realizing it isn’t water, but maybe they do, because they have to absolutely react and go opposite whatever is found in religion.


10 posted on 03/20/2015 7:04:47 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how many of their members are even aware of their churches position on these things...in all likelihood many just do not care..church is simply part of their weekly check off list


11 posted on 03/20/2015 7:04:57 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Yes, many in the rank and file regard church as a place to have a social framework and receive encouragement (on whatever basis) in the midst of life’s pressures. I think a lot of liberal church members like not being challenged to buck the culture, which can produce friction and unpleasantness, but they wish for everyone to just be “nice” and uncritical. Also, the emphasis on good works gives them a feeling of satisfaction.


12 posted on 03/20/2015 7:08:37 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Camille Paglia gave the PCUSA a sound thrashing in her essay THE JOY OF PRESBYTERIAN SEX (1991), saying they should ditch Christianity and become formal Pagans (since they were no longer functionally Christian). I couldn’t find the essay online, but it had some witty lines in it.


13 posted on 03/20/2015 7:14:27 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Genoa
I think a lot of liberal church members like not being challenged to buck the culture, which can produce friction and unpleasantness, but they wish for everyone to just be “nice” and uncritical.

There is a lot of that going on in the Catholic Church as well. Michael Voris of Church Militant calls it the "church of nice". Check out The Vortex on churchmilitant.tv.

14 posted on 03/20/2015 7:33:58 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Genoa

I never said the US was a saved nation. We are a nation that turned its back on Christ from its founding. Israel isn’t saved either, they too have rejected Christ. Both the Jews and the Muslims who live there have rejected Christ. There are, of course, a few Christians. But that doesn’t make Israel a saved, Christian nation.

God has plans for all nations, be it the US, Israel, China etc. Modern Israel has no specific importance though. Not in scripture anyway.


15 posted on 03/20/2015 8:13:54 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil

Many, even among the Reformed, have seen in Scripture an indication that there will be a specific and notable turning to Christ among Jews in the latter days. I think modern Israel has providential importance. We shall see.


16 posted on 03/20/2015 8:27:36 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our local Presbyterian church, one of the largest and best attended churches in the area, left the Presbyterian USA group about five or six years ago, over their increasingly liberal politics and policies.

They joined the Evangelical Presbyterian Church organization.

I wonder how many other congregations have left?

17 posted on 03/20/2015 8:57:07 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: LeoMcNeil

“Modern Israel has no specific importance though. Not in scripture anyway.”

Totally untrue. The second coming of Jesus Christ involves his return to fight the enemies of Israel. People who cannot or will not see and acknowledge prophecy regarding Israel being fulfilled before their very eyes in our days are blind.


18 posted on 03/20/2015 10:43:29 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

Catholic school, with priest’s backing, suspends theology teacher for defending marriage on Facebook

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-school-suspends-theology-teacher-for-defending-marriage-on-faceboo


19 posted on 03/20/2015 10:54:24 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: SeekAndFind

An excellent and damning article. Thanks for posting!

(Just an FYI; it’s usually best to excerpt articles longer than a couple of paragraphs and let people follow the link to the rest. This shows respect for copyright and in this case increases traffic to a reputable conservative website.)


20 posted on 03/20/2015 11:15:04 AM PDT by NRx
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