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Concerns about Cremation: Some Very Strange Practices Are Emerging
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 03-17-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/18/2015 7:30:19 AM PDT by Salvation

Concerns about Cremation: Some Very Strange Practices Are Emerging

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

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Some years ago, the Church gave wider permission for cremation and also lifted traditional restrictions on having cremated remains present in the church for funeral Masses. All of this is pastorally understandable. Very few if any people these days choose cremation for the reasons it had traditionally been forbidden, namely as a denial of the resurrection of the body. Generally the reasons chosen are economic, due to the increasingly high cost of traditional burial and the difficulty, especially in urban areas, of finding room for large cemeteries. The basic norms from the church regarding cremation are these:

The Church earnestly recommends that the pious custom of burying the bodies of the dead be observed; it does not, however, forbid cremation unless it has been chosen for reasons which are contrary to Christian teaching (Code of Canon Law No. 1176, 3).

Although cremation is now permitted by the Church, it does not enjoy the same value as burial of the body. The Church clearly prefers and urges that the body of the deceased be present for the funeral rites, since the presence of the human body better expresses the values which the Church affirms in those rites (Order of Christian Funerals no. 413).

The cremated remains of a body should be treated with the same respect given to the human body from which they come. This includes the use of a worthy vessel to contain the ashes, the manner in which they are carried, and the care and attention to appropriate placement and transport, and the final disposition. The cremated remains should be buried in a grave or entombed in a mausoleum or columbarium. The practice of scattering cremated remains on the sea, from the air, or on the ground, or keeping cremated remains in the home of a relative or friend of the deceased are not the reverent disposition that the Church requires (cf Order of Christian Funerals # 417).

From a pastoral point of view, these norms are  clear and understandable. However, as a pastor, I must say that I have growing concerns over practices that are appearing with the more widespread use of cremation.

The norms clearly indicate that cremated remains are not to be scattered, divided, or retained in the homes of the faithful on fireplace mantles, on shelves, or in other places. But these norms are somewhat difficult to enforce.

The problem emerges essentially from the detachment of the funeral Mass from interment. When cremation is chosen, it is common for the funeral Mass to be celebrated quickly but the burial to be scheduled at some “later date” when arrangements can be more conveniently made. Frequently clergy are told that the family will “call back” at some point in the future. But often these calls never come and burials are put off indefinitely.

Issues such as money, logistics, and family disputes are often factors in the delay. Priests, too, are  often busy and do not have time to follow up to see if “Uncle Joe” is ready for burial now.  As such, many deceased remain unburied for weeks, months, or years, or perhaps never even buried at all.

I was shocked a couple of years ago to discover that a certain Catholic family still had the cremated remains of an uncle on the top shelf of their closet. The delay centered around who in the family was going to pay for the burial lot and debates about whether burial was even necessary at all. Perhaps the ashes could just be scattered out in the woods.

Without the urgency to bury the dead, the burial is often given little regard.

Another concern came to my attention during recent funeral preparations. There was a tense debate going on among the assembled family members as to who would get to keep the ashes and who would not. The crematorium had offered to dispense ashes to different family members in sealed boxes or urns (for a price of course) and the debate seemed to center on whether certain family members were “qualified” to get some of “Mom” or not. Yikes! And when I instructed them that no division of the remains should take place at all, but rather that burial had to be arranged, I was greeted with puzzled stares and eventual “assurances” that such burial would be arranged “in due time,” once the family could work out their differences.

But things have gotten even worse.

Many funeral homes are now offering “jewelry” made from the cremated remains of loved ones or with the remains sealed within the jewelry. If you don’t believe me, click HERE, HERE, or HERE. The ghoulishness and bad taste are surpassed only by the shock of how suddenly such bizarre practices have been introduced. One can imagine the following awful dialogue: “Hey, that’s pretty new jewelry! Was that your Mom’s?”  “Well, actually it is Mom!” Double yikes!

Cremation is certainly here to stay. And I do not doubt there are sound pastoral reasons for its use. However, the norms of the Church insist that cremated remains be treated with the same respect as the body. And just as we would not scatter body parts in the woods, or divide up limbs and torsos to distribute to family members, or put fingers into resin and wear them as earrings, neither should we do this with cremated remains. These ARE the remains of a human being and they are to be buried or placed in a mausoleum with the same respect due the uncremated body.

I think pastors are going to have to teach more explicitly on this matter and that  bishops may need to issues norms that will help to prevent problems. One helpful norm might be to refuse to celebrate a funeral Mass until proper burial is scheduled. I am unclear if a pastor alone can do this, but surely a diocese must also have an increasingly firm and clear policy of which people are widely informed.

Simply permitting cremation without well-thought-out policies has proven to be a mistake. I pray that a post like this may provoke thought from all of us in the Church as to how to deal pastorally with a situation that is degrading quickly. We must do some teaching, but we also must not cooperate with bad practices.

The website of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has proposed a possible solution for Catholic cemeteries to offer to families who are financially unable to bury the cremated remains of loved ones:

For some families, the choice of cremation is based on financial hardship, so this choice often means also that there is no plan for committal or burial of the cremated remains. As a means of providing pastoral support and an acceptable respectful solution to the problem of uninterred cremated remains, one diocese offered on All Souls’ Day in 2011 an opportunity for any family who desired it the interment of cremated remains. The diocese offered a Mass and committal service at one of its Catholic cemeteries and provided, free of charge, a common vault in a mausoleum for the interment of the cremated remains. The names of the deceased interred there were kept on file, though in this case they were not individually inscribed on the vault. [1]

I am interested in your thoughts and experiences and hope to share them with my bishop and my fellow clergy



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Theology
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To: R. Scott
Not here in Virginia.

Are you certain, because that is hat I would like to have done as well.

Of course being a Hokies fan I am not certain about giving anything to UVA.

101 posted on 03/18/2015 6:32:35 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: fruser1

Google “Jeremy Bentham”! Veeerrryy eernnnttyeerrreessting!


102 posted on 03/18/2015 8:22:37 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: TontoKowalski

Thanks for the “direct cremation” information.


103 posted on 03/19/2015 2:29:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Oatka
"It appears there is a slight flaw in my theory of immortality".

Mikey LIKES it! :0)

104 posted on 03/19/2015 2:43:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: verga

Where did you hear such nonsense? Without cadavers how to the doctors learn?


105 posted on 03/19/2015 3:18:00 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: martin_fierro
Hey, when I'm gone, compress my cremains into a diamond.

That way I may actually be worth something.

And then I'll make you a singing knight. I'll say "Kneel, Diamond!"

106 posted on 03/19/2015 3:22:06 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: NRx
"I agree with both of your points. Cremation is a deliberate desecration of the human body which is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. It is a pagan custom that is antithetical to Christianity as it at least implicitly denies the resurrection of the body.

I suppose that is one opinion.

I also have one or two.

You said burning of a body is a Pagan practice, but other practices , such as laying the body in the open to be eaten by birds is still is use today.

Methinks that some of the faithful of most of the worlds religions and sects, would have practices you might also consider Pagan.

I would simply call them different or even unique. The term Pagan, is really a derogatory dating back to the early days of Christianity, usually directed at Moon worshipers, and early Vikings..

As to what is the proper way, I personally prefer cremation, simply for the simplicity of it and the costs. The idea that a box of bones, the oldest of which have turned to dust is right and other practices wrong and a violation of religious doctrine, leaves one to seek out another kind of doctrine, or to ignore it.

107 posted on 03/19/2015 3:51:14 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: R. Scott
Where did you hear such nonsense? Without cadavers how to the doctors learn?

I think we are talking past each other. I am interested in doing the organ donation and then having the rest of me go to one of the medical schools.

After reading post #60 I was concerned that instead of educational purposes I would be chopped up and sold on the "Gray market."

108 posted on 03/19/2015 4:11:03 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: NRx

A family we are friends with are caretakers at a cemetery. Cremation is a huge headache for them, as people will buy a plot and try to inter four or more cremated remains there (state law is one person per plot). Or they will dump the ashes out by the flower bed or pond. Which makes a situation where they have to be cleaned up, and at times you can see that the ashes have identifiable pieces in them.

Embalming is another issue. It is pretty much mandated by law.


109 posted on 03/19/2015 4:36:23 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: hiho hiho
Cremation does not sound as bad as the embalming process (perforated, blood put down the sewer, filled with toxic chemicals), being dressed up and made-up to look not dead, then put on display. That all sounds barbaric to me.

Totally agree and won't authorize that for myself or any relative and have never been to any viewing of a body and hate the whole idea of it. Am a traditional Catholic except on this issue.

110 posted on 03/19/2015 9:14:03 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

To me, the grotesque embalming seems way more disrespectful of God’s Creation than anything you could do with the ashes.


111 posted on 03/19/2015 9:15:56 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: redgolum

“Embalming is another issue. It is pretty much mandated by law.”

Actually that’s a myth pushed very aggressively by the funeral industry. Most states have no laws requiring embalming. Federal law requires it only when shipping bodies across state lines or between the United States and a foreign country. If you can find a copy (many libraries will have one) I suggest reading The American Way of Death by the late Jessica Mitford. It’s a brutal expose of the funeral industry.


112 posted on 03/19/2015 9:30:30 AM PDT by NRx
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To: Salvation
This sort of abuse is why cremation should not be condoned. Similarly, receiving communion in the hand encourages the possibilty of abuse
113 posted on 03/19/2015 10:14:11 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: NRx

Some friends of ours are caretakers at a cemetery. The majority of cemeteries are for profit corporations (many are owned by a group out of Texas). Prices are going up. They are still a non profit one, but the board has been under pressure to sell out.

The predatory practice of some of the mortuaries is rather horrible.

As for embalming, I do know that in South Dakota it is mandated (with exception for certain explicit religions), and if I remember right Nebraska is too. The definition is much less than what is typically done. The reason is because in some areas, there isn’t enough top soil to bury very deep.


114 posted on 03/19/2015 12:06:49 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

And instead of cremation, how about composting? (no I’m NOT endorsing this.)

the story begins:

Corpses could soon be turned into compost and used as plant food if a radical new plan to offer a new way to bury the dead succeeds.

Called the Urban Death Project, it proposes corpses are placed into a giant tower by families and left to decompose.

After six weeks, their body will have broken down into compost, which is them given to the grieving families as well as spread in national parks

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3002964/Corpse-compost-Seattle-firm-campaigning-allow-human-plant-food-added-ways-dispose-body.html#ixzz3UsAJgqDr
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115 posted on 03/19/2015 3:18:26 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaled
I never understood the logic of this. Did somebody (unclear on the definition of "omnipotent") believe that it was possible for God to resurrect a dead body, but restoring ashes was just too much to expect?

It is strange considering how many early Christians were burned to death or torn apart and eaten by beasts.

Do they think that these early martyrs would be turned away because of how they died?

116 posted on 03/19/2015 3:24:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Salvation
The ghoulishness and bad taste are surpassed only by the shock of how suddenly such bizarre practices have been introduced. One can imagine the following awful dialogue: “Hey, that’s pretty new jewelry! Was that your Mom’s?” “Well, actually it is Mom!” Double yikes!

This person never heard of mourning jewelry? It used to be quite popular. Yes, even in Roman Catholic countries.

117 posted on 03/19/2015 3:28:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: terycarl; Rodamala
that would be both illegal and UNWELCOME!!

Depends what state. Some states are permitting so-called "green burials." No embalming, no box, just a deep hole and a shroud. Then they plant a tree on top of you. Personally, that's exactly what I want. Anything else is just vanity and waste. Failing that, I want to be cremated and my ashes dumped along a trail somewhere back in the mountains, so that whoever is doing it has to do at least an overnight backpack and have an adventure.

118 posted on 03/19/2015 3:56:17 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: verga

Here in Virginia the body has to be complete with all organs to be donated. What good is a cadaver without its internal organs?


119 posted on 03/20/2015 3:28:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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