It is a false "hope" offered to the unregenerate , that somehow that can make heaven on their own merits
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Most of the people here, I think, would rather purgawhig or purgasocialist than purgatory.
“Burning off sins” to many is actually a horrifying concept, and not biblical. The Bible talks about Abraham’s Bosom, the place where believers went prior to Jesus ascension. Now, to be absent from the body, is to be present with Christ Jesus! Hell is real, but Jesus paid the price so that no one has to go there!!!
If there is, I’m sure it will involve the reading of endless religion forum debates.
Purgatory is not biblical.
The bible says it’s appointed once for man to die, after that the judgement.
The only way to have our sins forgiven and cleansed is by the blood of Jesus.
I like the title, I like the title.
“Purgatory” is right here on planet earth. Being extra good this time around so I won’t have to come back again.
In the 20 period after leaving the Catholic Church, prior to having a real born again experience (a slow motion process that lasted about 6 years), I often speculated that perhaps purgatory is real and we are all experiencing it with what we call “life”.
On some days, that thought returns to me.
As I understand it, the early princes of the church initiated infant baptism so a person would be less likely to die before being baptized, in which case they’d be sent to hell.
It was later decided, though, that since sinning while living post-baptism was worse than sinning before, it was too hard living an entire baptized life without serious sins.
So, baptism was put off until late in life to dilute the effect of sins committed after baptism.
Then they realized that an unbaptized prince could fall off his horse as an adult, hit his head on a rock, and die before a priest could get there to baptize him.
The solution was to invent purgatory. Now, the believer could take out the eternal insurance of infant baptism, live of life of post-baptism sins, and work off the punishment after death but before the devil could take him.
This is Purgatory.
Purgatory is reading screeds like this from a bigot.
Regarding the mass I have made the point that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin (Hebrews 9:22, Leviticus 17:11), so Rome’s unbloody sacrifice can’t possibly achieve its stated goal. In biblical terms, an unbloody sacrifice is no sacrifice at all!
It seems the same applies here. Neither penance nor time in Purgatory can do a thing to atone for sin. There must be a blood sacrifice for remission.
“If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any mans work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.”
1 Corinthians 3:14-15
LOL did you know that you're a "bogot"?
Many cults go about trying to establish their own righteousness. Mitch essentially said, and I change the words slightly, but they have a greater chance of standing on the sun and casting a shadow, than they do of making Heaven on their own merits. Do I believe there is a place called Purgatory? Yes, it is in Colorado.
2 Thessalonians 1:79 says that those in Hell: will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, AWAY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD and from the glory of his might
If you were wrong about that - AND YOU WERE - you might be wrong about this too.
People who start by throwing out part of the Old Testament are starting by blaspheming the Holy Spirit whether they realize they're doing so or not.