Is Sola Scriptura in the Bible?

ligonier.org ^ | Nov 05, 2009 | R.C. Sproul Jr.

[cuban leaf]

Revelation was written approximately 96AD. Which book was written after that?

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The specifics of when each book was written is a completely different topic. And quite controversial.

[Iscool]

Perhaps. But it’s my understanding that the Bible is not just a collection of separate “articles” penned by numerous writers and bound together as a collection of sorts. It is an unbroken, harmonious thread of the Word and the Will of God; therefore someone who tampers with the Book of Revelation is also tampering with Amos or Philemon.

Seem to me that while Catholics acknowledge that the Book of Revelation is not to be tampered with, and that all the the rest of the books of the Bible we can mangle as we please, would be the epitome of stupidity...

[CynicalBear]

>>The specifics of when each book was written is a completely different topic.<<

I took your statement directly from your post. Your statement as to when it was written was directly related to the topic.

>>And quite controversial.<<

Not between 70AD and 96AD it isn't. Both scripturally and historically Revelation could not have been written in 70AD.

[Rashputin]

What is it about quoting Scripture that you think implies tradition shouldn’t be in line with Scripture?

[Rashputin]

Well since you decided to make it personal, I’d say you’re pretty confused about everything except the color of the sky in your own little bubble.

[cuban leaf]

Sorry, the precise timing of the writing of each book is another subject. My point was that it is the last book of the bible because someone other than the original authors decided to put it there. Do I trust his judgement? Well, it’s not relevant except for that one scripture. And then only if one thinks it applies to the entire bible.

But I’m arguing semantics because I’d not accept extra-biblical information as something that needs to be included in it.

[ReformationFan]

“Does this mean we don’t need all the creeds and confessions, all the councils and conventions, to tell us what the Scriptures say? “

I doubt it. Dr. Sproul is a PCA Presbyterian which means he subscribes to the Wesminster Confession of Faith.

http://www.pcaac.org/resources/wcf/

[LearsFool]

Aha, thank you. So he doesn’t really believe in sola scriptura then.

Sola scriptura + “our additions” = thumbs-up

Sola scriptura + “their additions” = thumbs-down

[jjotto]

Yep.

No such thing as sola scriptura.

Sola scriptura + “my personal understanding by the Holy Spirit”

[afsnco]

Agreed. And it’s amazing how many basic doctrines are affirmed in Rev. itself, which we’re warned to not add to or take away from anything in that book.

But there’s also these comments by Christ:

Mat 15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
Mat 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

They should be teaching for doctrines the commandments of God, of course.

[LearsFool]

Or maybe:

Sola scriptura + the brain God gave me to understand it

After all, if we can’t understand what someone is saying, what’s the point in him saying it? If God said things to us in a way we can’t understand, He sure did a poor job of communicating with us, right?

[jjotto]

“God gave ME” or “God gave US”, or Sola Scriptura + “the voice in my head”?

[LearsFool]

God gave me a brain. He gave you a brain. He gave us brains.

One thing you’ll never hear me say is, “Just take my word for it - this is what the Scriptures teach.”

On the contrary, I’m happy to reason through these things with anyone who’s interested.

[Old Yeller]

Which "we" among the 40K+ denominations is this particular author speaking for?

Wow, this week it's 40,000. Last week it was 35,000. Do I hear 50,000?!

[reed13k]

Can a Man or Woman raised without contact with any church or a bible be saved?

My answer is that of course they can - they need not even hear the Word from another human.

Agree/Disagree - discuss

[Rashputin]

Since we're changing subjects instead of starting a new vanity topic to ask such things,

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?

[Tucker39]

What I meant was last book positionally, not chronologically. However, I still maintain that the Scriptures are a seamless unit and cannot be broken up or “cherry picked” if you will.

[tbpiper]

Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that." Mark 7:13

Speaks to religious tradition taking precedence over the word of God.

[Rashputin]

Actually, millions of denominations, one for each individual who follows Eve rather than Christ by accepting the lie of Self and Self Alone (aka "Sola Scriptura").

The fact is, there's no such thing as "Sola Scriptura", only Solo Scriptura

[Rashputin]

So says someone who conveniently avoids the fact that verse 5 of the same chapter specifically names the Scribes and Pharisees as those to whom verse 13 is addressed.

So says someone who bows before and obeys the same anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisees to whom verse 13 is addressed by naming those Pharisees as having the authority to throw Scripture into the garbage.

So says someone who first blasphemes the Holy Spirit by throwing Scripture in the garbage, then pretends that same Holy Spirit leads them when in fact they rely on Self and Self Alone exactly the same way Eve did after listening to Satan.

The same someone who believes the Bible is just a set of Lego Blocks they can build whatever they like out of and then pretend what they build for their Self and Self Alone is Christianity.