Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

[ealgeone]

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.

[LurkingSince'98]

I’ll call any person I want Father as I have every priest I have ever come across in my life.

I am honored to be able to call a man ordained to the priesthood and who has taken his vows Father.

I’m really not interested in your ineffectual cut and paste protestantism.

Not interested in rote.

Btw got to go back to work

do you work?

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam

[Elsie]

We venerate Mary because like Our Savior we love and seek company of Mary and ask her to lead us to Christ.

I think you'll find your BOOK says that someone ELSE does the leading...

John 16:13
“But whenever The Spirit of The Truth comes, he will lead you into the whole truth...

Psalm 25:5
Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me.

[Elsie]

The Catholic Church has been clarifying for 2000 years.

Yup' I sure cannot disagree with this!

[paterfamilias]

“>>Please, just pray for all Christians and allow God to do the rest.<<

That would disobey God’s instructions for us to correct error we see in others teaching.”

I see your point.

Recall that Jesus said to Simon, “Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” and “Whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven.”

This charge was given to Peter and his successors: only the Catholic Church can trace her heritage directly to Peter.

To that end, let me point out that you are therefore in grave error in your rejection of the teachings of Holy Mother Church, and that I will pray for you.

[Elsie]

Every Catholic belief is fully supported in the Holy Bible.

This statement is false; and demonstratively so:

[Elsie]

please post just ONE example of how Jerome’s translation was not true to the ORIGINAL Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin or ancient Greek text.

It's kinda like Mary relics.

There ain't none; so it MUST be true!

Or, how about, "If Jeromes was SO good; why doesn't ROME use it today?"

[Elsie]

It is not limited to how we use it in modern English.

That'll teach 'em to mess with the power that is ROME!!!

[Elsie]

It gave us the proper form to venerate Mary for her spiritual feat

Which 'feat' do you refer?

[Elsie]

Please read the following, approved, teaching on this.

I get it now!

Only the POORLY CATECHIZED Catholics are doing the bowing!

[Elsie]

1. EACH BIBLE WAS HAND COPIED BY CATHOLIC MONKS AND DISTRIBUTED TO CATHOLICS CHURCHES WHERE IT WAS READ EACH SUNDAY AT MASS

2. And prior to Gutenburg there were at least ten versions of the Vulgate in print in limited in Germany.

Them thar monks did a REALLY good job; didn't they!!

[Elsie]

please POST the original KOINE Greek text and the provenance of your test.

...there were at least ten versions of the Vulgate in print in limited in Germany.

[Elsie]

“her firstborn son” is a title conveying inheritance and does not indicate there was a “second born son”.

whew

Whew indeed!

Matthew 1:25
But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son.

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This 'indicates' that they DID get it on AFTER the FIRST BORN SON appeared.

Whew!

[Elsie]

Rather, they provide constant teaching to men everywhere...

Call no man Father...

[Elsie]

and why again should I read the history of two heretics??

Get thee behind me, Satan.

Galatians 2:11
When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.

[Elsie]

let’s face it you won’t get it since your not Catholic

Smugness personified

[Elsie]

You are dishonoring the Blessed Mother who is without sin by your words and arrogant viewpoint of how Catholics honor our Blessed Mother. Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of our Church and our spirtutal mother.

She's dead. All these words won't hurt her.

She can no longer REFUSE Joseph her wifely obligations, since he's dead; too.

She can no longer IGNORE the GODLY command to "Go forth and MULTIPY".

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So just keep on praying TO her; if it makes you feel any better.

Ecclesiastes 9:5
The living at least know they will die, but the dead know nothing.

[Elsie]

don’t any of you have a job??

Combating non-biblical teaching IS my job!

[Elsie]

The Book of James was altered

My teacher uses to say, "Show your work."

[Elsie]

Douay Rheims is the accepted English translation.

Terycarl accepts the Vulgate; but did not translate it.