Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
You forgot the Protestant churches. I knw it was just an oversight.
What you've quoted in bold is my speculation while regarding the infinite God's infinite power and things of Him and the Holy Trinity that are beyond my comprehension, as with any of His Miracles.
So, I'm still not seeing what you're trying to show me. Could you be more specific?
Should we place limits on God? If so, what would they be and why would they be?
The Eucharist IS Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, so sad that you don't understand that...
Knw=know. : )
Why is it many FRoman Catholics seem so incapable of seeing others without placing them in tidy boxes with labels on the outside? Neither SR nor I "pledged" ourselves to the reformers. All we've been trying to do is show the reformers were NOT the originators of the doctrines of sola Scriptura and sola fide but that these were clearly taught IN scripture and were held by many of the very first church "fathers". How is it you can just ignore all the quotes and references that have been posted which proved that?
You have determined you will "rest" (pledge yourself?) in the Roman Catholic church. Fine, who's stopping you? Just as long as you acknowledge that there has been a development over time in your church's doctrines and many were unheard of in the early church and were NEVER taught by the Apostles. Can you do that? You presume your church has the "divine authority" to determine what is the truth - even in matters of faith and morals - and you place your faith in that view even in the face of contradicting or absent passages of Scripture. Again, you have that freedom - no one is going to burn you at the stake. Just know that you WILL be held accountable for the light you have been given and how you respond to it. You will not be able to deny that - and neither will we. I'm cool with that, are you?
WRT Pauline Soteriology, can you provide documentation that proves there was a comprehensive and official Roman Catholic doctrine on justification prior to the Council of Trent that authoritatively states we are justified by faith AND works? Because you cannot, we know that the RC condemnation of the Reformation doctrine of sola fide as a deviation from, and a "theological novum", established RC doctrine is bogus. Like Jaroslav Pelikan wrote,
quickly go back and read the question that is the basis of this website.....Protestants make baseless and meaningless accusations and Catholics are merely justifying their honoring and not worshiping Mary...
I do NOT do, "Fifteen Hail Marys" and pray for a short time in Purge-a-tory.
I know why it appears you must denigrate all who
oppose your chosen religion.
Many?
I think you meant ALL.
While I know of the divorce; I do NOT know any details.
Who filed?
Any re-conciliation tried?
Who is at 'fault'?
I think it is incomplete in some ways, while getting the main things right.
That common ground between us should be enough, but obviously something else gets in between us and so we fight about it.
That we fight about it gives me very strong suspicions about the identity of the real agent who is encouraging our misunderstandings, accusations and the battles that result.
None of that is coming from the One we Christians all agree we follow. That's not His stuff. Nope, that's the enemy's trademarked style and verified by the results.
We have far more to agree about than fight about, and if our egos could be silenced long enough for us to hear what God has to say so softly, we'd stop ourselves.
Listen up!!
Here come some MORE!!!
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!
Two different filings...one try at reconciliation. “Fault”? No immorality on her part, rumors on his. She gave up on him. But, this is not his only problem. He teaches a free will world of self-determined salvation. That tears it for me. And the Freeper trying to trot him out doesn’t care about good theology...just Roman promotion.
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
Aren’t humidors venerated??
Or is that ventilated??
“Mary is the Queen of Heaven because she is the Queen Mother, or mother of the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, as recorded in the Bible. “
More Mariolatry. The Scriptures:
Never give her the title, Queen of Heaven
Never give her the title, Queen Mother
Never give her the title mother of the King of the eternal
Nor is the woman in Revelation Mary. It is Israel.
You vipers!
What else should you expect from ignorant bigots who are not loving Catholics??
Gal 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control; against such there is no law.
Our new Pope is a blessed man!
Our new Pope is an IDIOT!
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