Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
Good question...
Oh; about that bible reading suggestion:
Your chosen religion has made this claim; and they have answered it to your satisfaction.
There is NO evidence, however, that such a greeting MEANS what Rome claims that it does.
And this is a statement that contains NO logic; only speculation.
Rahab, a whore in Jericho, is in Christ's lineage.
How did GOD possibly allow THAT to happen???
It's gonna take a LOT of 'logic' to overcome YEARS of repetitive indoctrination.
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Jesus beats His mom by 12!
Well at least you are consistent.
Human speculation.
Jesus traces His family line through David. Jesus is sometimes called the Son of David in the Bible. David, as we will recall, was a man after God's own heart, yet David sinned in a number of major ways.
The point being, Jesus does not need a "sinless" mother to carry Him.
He Himself is sinless.
I do applaud you for attempting to provide some evidence behind the catholic interpretation of Luke 1:28. Better work than most on this thread.
Do you do your own highlighting, or is there some software to find Biblical passages by keyword? That would be great to have!
By the way, at this moment, Lord Jesus Christ has ascended into Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father, and is NOT still on that crucifix thingy as a perpetual victim as celebrated in RCC Mass.
The once-for-all sacrifice in place of all sinners who believe in Him, HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. Not only that, He DIED, and later was RESURRECTED. And because of that, we believers are resurrected with him in His time and in the proper order.
No priest, no Mary, no one on earth to call “Father”, no Mass, no Eucharist necessary for someone this very minute to call on Jesus with a repentant heart, to be saved from our sin and the second death. He has promised always to be with us...even to the very end of this age.
“By the way, at this moment, Lord Jesus Christ has ascended into Heaven, seated at the right hand of the Father, and is NOT still on that crucifix thingy as a perpetual victim as celebrated in RCC Mass.”
And yet His sacrifice was forever in its importance and effectiveness so we honor it in memory and art.
“The once-for-all sacrifice in place of all sinners who believe in Him, HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. Not only that, He DIED, and later was RESURRECTED. And because of that, we believers are resurrected with him in His time and in the proper order.”
And our participation in His resurrection begins through Baptism (Romans 6:1-4).
“No priest, no Mary, no one on earth to call “Father”, no Mass, no Eucharist necessary for someone this very minute to call on Jesus with a repentant heart, to be saved from our sin and the second death.”
Except Christ, the High Priest, gave us priests (the Apostles) just as He gave us His mother (John 19). He gave us His flesh to eat (John 6, Luke 22) and the Mass (1 Cor 11). I see no reason to reject gifts from God.
“He has promised always to be with us...even to the very end of this age.”
Yep, through His Church, His Word (especially in the Church), His Body and Blood, and through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is in the center of the Hail Mary prayer? I thought Roman Catholics did not pray to Mary.
Without the Cross, there could be no Resurrection. To underestimate the pain and suffering He endured for our salvation is to do Him a disservice.
In Job's time, suffering was considered an affliction, a punishment from God. The Passion and Death of Jesus gave meaning and dignity to suffering. It was the price of our salvation.
By the way,a crucifix is a cross with a represenation of the Suffering Jesus attached, as a reminder of the Love that God has for us in giving us His Only-Begotten Son, allowing Him to willingly suffer and die for our sins: and, yes, Resurrect Himself from the dead!
"Thingy?" Take a look and see what your Savior went through for love of all mankind!
You are either willfully or mistakenly misrepresenting what I wrote.
If you are really mistaken, I meant a crucifix, not the Cross. There is a difference and I think you should know that.
No He didn't. Only through the corrupting of word meanings does the Catholic Church assign the name "priest". The truth is that the apostles called all believers "priests".
1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood (hierateuma), a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
hierateuma - 2406 hieráteuma (from 2409 /hiereús, "priest") – priesthood. [http://biblehub.com/greek/2406.htm]
The Greek NEVER uses that word to describe the leadership other than the leadership of Christ.
Please read my post again. The "representation" to which I referred is known as a corpus, from the Latin for "body." I do know the difference. And "thingy" is not an appropriate term for either.
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