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Sorry, But Media Coverage of Pope Francis is Papal Bull
Time ^ | October 29, 2014 | Elizabeth Dias

Posted on 10/29/2014 4:57:31 PM PDT by NYer

The 'Pope Francis supports evolution' story is just the latest example of the press getting the Catholic church completely wrong

It is official: the media has gone bananas in its coverage of Pope Francis.

The OMG-Pope-Francis-Supports-Evolution story of the past two days is just the latest example. Almost every news outlet, major and minor, has plastered Pope Francis’ name across the interwebs and proclaimed he has finally planted the Catholic Church in the evolution camp of the creation-evolution debate. The only problem? Almost every outlet has got the story wrong, proving once again that the mainstream media has nearly no understanding of the Church. And that madness shows no signs of stopping.

Pope Francis’ real role in this evolution hubbub was small. He spoke, as Popes do, to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Monday, which had gathered to discuss “Evolving Topics of Nature,” and he affirmed what Catholic teaching has been for decades. “God is not a divine being or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life,” he said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

Anyone who knows anything about Catholic history knows that a statement like this is nothing new. Pope Pius XII wrote an encyclical “Humani Generis” in 1950 affirming that there was no conflict between evolution and Catholic faith. Pope John Paul II reaffirmed that, stressing that evolution was more than a hypothesis, in 1996. Pope Benedict XVI hosted a conference on the nuances of creation and evolution in 2006. There’s an official book on the event for anyone who wants to know more. Pope Francis’ comments Monday even came as he was unveiling a new statue of Pope Benedict XVI, honoring him for his leadership.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: evolution; heretic
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1 posted on 10/29/2014 4:57:31 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
Moral of this story: Don’t believe most of what you read about the Vatican. Papal coverage has gone wild.

Surprise! Time magazine gets it right .. ping! Definitely worth reading the article in its entirety.

2 posted on 10/29/2014 4:58:34 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Sorry, But Media Coverage of Pope Francis is Papal Bull

Please don't be overly critical of our free press. It takes a while for them to gather the talking points and to tell their story straight...as in the Benghazi murders.

Shucks, even our administration's best minds couldn't get that narrative nailed down until...until...

Well, they still haven't quite. But give them more time on this story as well.
3 posted on 10/29/2014 5:02:55 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: NYer

The media lie about everything.

They can not be trusted.

Among those they lie about are Catholics and the Catholic church.


4 posted on 10/29/2014 5:10:20 PM PDT by detective
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To: NYer
"When we read in Genesis the account of Creation, we are in danger of imagining that God was a magician, complete with a magic wand capable of doing anything," Francis said. "But he was not."
5 posted on 10/29/2014 5:20:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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I was aware that the media’s interpretation was wrong since evolution has long been accepted by the Catholic Church, but Francis did “accomplish” some things here:

- He drew a lot of attention to split on Bible interpretation between evangelical Christians and the Catholic Church.

- He gave some ammunition to the atheists and secularists, and it makes me wonder if he will next being talking about “sky gods” and “flying spaghetti monsters.”

- He may have set straight some Catholics who believe that the Catholic Church doesn’t believe in evolution but the Genesis creation story as written. I have encountered them on the internet, where, for one example, a man posted with concern that a child in his family came home from Catholic school saying evolution was true, and the Catholic man didn’t know what to think.


6 posted on 10/29/2014 5:24:53 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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It happened last week when the Pope, again, voiced the Church’s long-standing opposition to the death penalty (having also done so in June, and after John Paul discussed the topic at length in an entire encyclical on being consistently pro-life in 1995).

Where did this "long-standing opposition to the death penalty" come from?

7 posted on 10/29/2014 5:26:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Pope Francis’ real role in this evolution hubbub was small. He spoke, as Popes do, to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Monday, which had gathered to discuss “Evolving Topics of Nature,” and he affirmed what Catholic teaching has been for decades. “God is not a divine being or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life,” he said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

I was wondering why anyone would post an article denying the Pope is pro-evolution when he has plainly stated so (as has ever Pope since at least Pius XII) and Catholic FReepers have been defending evolution manfully throughout the whole ordeal. Then I read this.

So let me get this straight--the Pope is not pro-evolution; he has simply affirmed evolution as the Church has done constantly for decades.

Okay now . . . how exactly does this translate to "the Pope is not pro-evolution?" Answer: it doesn't.

In other words, the title is a lie. Yet Catholics, who affirm their belief in evolution, feel the need to deny the Pope's belief in evolution by explaining that the Pope actually just believes in evolution.

Ah yes . . . the western intellectual tradition at its finest.

“God is not a divine being . . ."

Wow.

8 posted on 10/29/2014 5:28:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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- He gave some ammunition to the atheists and secularists, and it makes me wonder if he will next being talking about “sky gods” and “flying spaghetti monsters.”

Don't laugh. He's the first Pope who has declared he'll baptize Martians.

9 posted on 10/29/2014 5:30:06 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Among those they lie about are Catholics and the Catholic church.

And regular ol' Christians and non-RC worship gatherings as well.
10 posted on 10/29/2014 6:02:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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The Pope’s Embrace Of Evolution Brings Us One Step Closer To A One World Religion

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-popes-embrace-of-evolution-brings-us-one-step-closer-to-a-one-world-religion

The RCC is a Mystery Babylon religion hiding behind a facade of Christianity.


11 posted on 10/29/2014 6:03:15 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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This guy is a Marxist, pro-homosexual, liberal who cares not a whit what God's Word says.

The MSM is guilty of a lot of things, but they are not guilty of putting words in his mouth. He does that for himself.

People who will defend him, no matter what he says or does, really need to re-evaluate who and what they really worship.

12 posted on 10/29/2014 6:04:59 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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People who will defend him, no matter what he says or does, really need to re-evaluate who and what they really worship.

Born-again believers in only The Lord Jesus Christ, who once were RC but came out of her, are substantial in number. I know more than several by their first and last names.

That's what encourages me to resist just letting them go without some sort of warning...on FR and face-to-face, sometimes to my own hurt.
13 posted on 10/29/2014 6:13:20 PM PDT by Resettozero
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Tell me.

Is there ANYTHING that this pope has said that hasn’t been defended as having been misinterpreted?


14 posted on 10/29/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Is there ANYTHING that this pope has said that hasn’t been defended as having been misinterpreted?

This time is different. This article begins by saying the media is wrong when they say Francis believes in evolution, and then clarifies the issue by pointing out that Francis was merely stating his belief in evolution.

I'm not making this up.

But really, while the Catholic Church's hostile attitude towards the Bible is most often noted, in fact all the ancient churches have the exact same attitude. And while you won't like this, it's all because they have rejected the Hebrew Bible on its on terms in order to make it a chr*stological allegory. That attitude made this current one inevitable.

15 posted on 10/29/2014 6:18:28 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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"When we read in Genesis the account of Creation, we are in danger of imagining that God was a magician, complete with a magic wand capable of doing anything," Francis said. "But he was not."

That is one bizarre statement.

Whatever happened to just believing that God is omnipotent, omnipresent and, omniscient, a wonder working and miracle working God?

Why on earth would the pope conclude that people would attribute His works to *magic?

Does he have that low of an opinion of the level of spiritual maturity of the average person?

Or is it just projection on his part, revealing an image of God in his mind that is WAY too small?

16 posted on 10/29/2014 6:22:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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The RCC is a Mystery Babylon religion hiding behind a facade of Christianity.

Excellent article at your link...And then And then they lie and tell us the Catholic religion always believed in evolution...

The early Christian Church Fathers constantly argued with the pagans about the age of the earth, or about the age of civilization. They were unanimous that God had created the earth less than 6,000 years before they wrote. For example, one of the most influential, Augustine (AD354–430), in his most famous work, City of God, has a whole chapter, Of the Falseness of the History Which Allots Many Thousand Years to the World’s Past, where he says:

‘Let us, then, omit the conjectures of men who know not what they say, when they speak of the nature and origin of the human race. … They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed.’

Here

17 posted on 10/29/2014 7:05:20 PM PDT by Iscool
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*8Surprise! Time magazine gets it right! Definitely worth reading the article in its entirety.

BTTT!


18 posted on 10/29/2014 7:52:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Last two sentences of the TIME article:

“Moral of this story: Don’t believe most of what you read about the Vatican. Papal coverage has gone wild.”

Amen.


19 posted on 10/29/2014 8:16:39 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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The Pope’s Embrace Of Evolution Brings Us One Step Closer To A One World Religion

Is there to be only one Church or many? According to Scripture, Christ wanted us to be one (John 17:22-23). We are all as a Church to be of one mind and to think the same (Philippians 2:2; Romans 15:5). There is only to be one "faith" (Ephesians 4:3-6), not many. For the Church is Christ's Body and Christ only had one Body, not many. Also, since the Church is Christ's Bride (Ephesians 5:29), can Christ be married to more than one wife (essentially a spiritual form of the the sin of polygamy)? No, Christ can only have one wife (i.e., one Church, not many).

20 posted on 10/29/2014 8:36:55 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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