Posted on 07/05/2014 7:28:35 AM PDT by delchiante
CAMPOBASSO, Italy — Pope Francis says abandoning the traditionally Christian practice of not working on Sundays isn’t such a good change. Francis on Saturday traveled to Molise, an agricultural region in the heart of southern Italy where unemployment is chronically high. While he said poor people need employment to have dignity, he disagreed with opening stores and other businesses on Sundays as a way to create jobs.m
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The Church met on the First Day of the week
Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week, when we met to break the bread, Paul was holding a discussion with them; since he intended to leave the next day, he continued speaking until midnight.
They met every week on the First Day
1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken when I come.
Nobody should condemn them for not keeping the sabbath (seventh day) or the other Jewish feasts
Colossians 2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone condemn you in matters of food and drink or of observing festivals, new moons, or sabbaths. These are only a shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
It was called the Lord's Day
Revelation 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet...
This is borne out in the actual history of the Church from the very beginning. They understood that the Sabbath, like the Circumcision, was but a shadow of the real substance, coming of Christ and a new and better covenant.
"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache A.D. 70).
This was written before the NT was even completed: St. John had not yet written his Gospel, his Epistles, or his Revelation. It shows the actual practice of the NT Church.
The Letter of Barnabas, also written right there in the apostolic era, and showing the actual practice of the churches founded by the Apostles, explains:
"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 74 A.D.)
Likewise Ignatius of Antioch, a direct catechumen of St. John the Apostle, thus both practicing and explaining what he learned of the Faith from John:
"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Ignatius/Letter to the Magnesians A.D.110
To my knowledge, there were early Jewish Christians who taught that both the circumcision and the observance of the Seventh Day was required of Christians: but this faction was known as the "Judaizers," and they were refuted pretty thoroughly by Paul and in fact by the whole Church.
As long as the Temple remained, some of the new Jewish Christians probably did meet in the Temple on Saturday and for the Christian liturgy on Sunday. This of course ceased when the Temple and the Sabbath Worship connected to the Temple were destroyed.
I've never seen evidence that the Church ever required Gentile Christians to join in synagogue worship on Saturday, as did the Jews who did not accept Jesus as Messiah.
Um. OK. It’s not the Sabbath but the fulfillment of the Sabbath. I’m good with that.
Oh I read the article, smartypants.
The thing is nowhere could I find this mentioned in the homily I posted in post #27. Supposedly this is the mass this article is getting its quotes from and none of it is in his homily.
I surmise Vatican Radio reporting is much like Radio Moscow. Anyways, everyone knows he’s a nut by now.
That’s not biblical “the Sabbath day is Sunday”.
Would you kill Christ for working on a Sunday? Which he did btw. Or would you merely condemn him?
I don’t tend to take this stance, but in this case I really question the report in the OP. I see no evidence that Francis said anything of the sort....unless I have the wrong homily (but the article stated Saturday’s homily and I posted Saturday’s homily).
Honest enough. I like that.
Yes, it was corrected previously. The Sabbath day is the seventh day (Saturday for you) while the first/eighth day is the traditional day of worship for (the vast majority of) Christians beginning after the Resurrection and continuing until now.
I’m 65 grew up in the US and I don’t think it’s silly.
Nobody said it was silly. It is that Christ should be remembered above all of the old ordnances that he died for. Not the laws, just the ordnances....
Don’t know what your getting at but I don’t think Christ was killed for breaking Sabbath. Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Sunday is the day Jesus had risen from the dead, not Saturday.
There are groups of very orthodox Jews who will not exchange money, or engage in commerce of any kind, or use a car, or a phone. There is an apartment complex in MD where many of this particular branch of Judaism live(d), that has its own shul, who are *that* observant. They sure are Jews by anyone’s standard.
It happened. Perhaps those who let it happen were not in compliance with the laws, but it did happen.
... And Jesus met with the apostles on the first day .... Sunday.
As a Catholic the Sabbath day is Sunday.
It is history, its a done deal.
It’s times like these when I wish we could edit posts to better explain them. I have to wonder how many times my comment will be quoted for being wrong without reading my subsequent post explaining it.
As Jesus explained, we do what needs to be done any day of the week.
God worked six days and rested on the seventh and he called it the Sabbath.
Worshipping God may not be any more than just recognizing that the seventh day is the Sabbath.
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