Posted on 06/24/2014 12:29:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Last week NBC news reported that the “top legislative body of the Presbyterian Church in America” voted to recognize same-sex marriage as Christian in their church constitution. The news report, which was quickly corrected, was confusing the Presbyterian Church of the USA—whose general assembly was meeting in Detroit, Michigan—for the Presbyterian Church in America—whose general assembly was meeting in Houston, Texas.
With two Presbyterian denominations with similar names meeting on the same dates it’s easy to understand how a reporter could get them mixed up. So what exactly are the differences between the two? Here are several key differences between these two distinctive Presbyterian denominations.
Throughout the twentieth century, various Presbyterian denominations arose, merged, and split into various break-away groups.
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) (often abbreviated as PCUSA) was established by the 1983 merger of the Presbyterian Church in the United States, whose churches were located mainly in the South and in border states, with the United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America, whose congregations could be found in every state.
In 1973, the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) separated from the Presbyterian Church in the United States in "opposition to the long-developing theological liberalism which denied the deity of Jesus Christ and the inerrancy and authority of Scripture." In 1982, the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod, joined the Presbyterian Church in America.
The PCUSA is the largest Presbyterian denomination in the U.S. PCUSA has approximately 10,038 congregations, 1,760,200 members, and 20,562 ministers. The denomination has been steadily losing members and churches since 1983, and has lost 37 percent of its membership since 1992.
The PCA is the second largest Presbyterian denomination in the U.S. The PCA has approximately 1,808 congregations, 367,033 members, and 4,416 ministers. The denomination has been one of the faster growing denominations in the United States, growing tenfold since 1983.
PCUSA: The Bible and the Book of Confessions, which includes the Nicene Creed, the Apostles' Creed, the Scots Confession, the Heidelberg Catechism, the Second Helvetic Confession, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Shorter Catechism, the Larger Catechism, the Theological Declaration of Barmen, the Confession of 1967, and the Brief Statement of Faith.
PCA: The Bible, the Westminster Confession of Faith, together with the Larger and Shorter Catechisms, and the Book of Church Order.
The PCUSA maintains affiliations with ten seminaries in the United States: Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, Columbia Theological Seminary, Johnson C. Smith Theological Seminary at the Interdenominational Theological Center, Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, McCormick Theological Seminary. Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, Princeton Theological Seminary, San Francisco Theological Seminary, Presbyterian Seminary in Richmond, Virginia and Charlotte, North Carolina, and University of Dubuque Theological Seminary.
The PCA maintains affiliations with one seminary in the United States: Covenant Theological Seminary.
PCUSA: Allows for the ordination of both men and women, including non-celibate homosexuals.
PCA: Only ordains men in "obedience to the New Testament standard for those who rule the church and teach doctrine."
PCUSA: Does not teach that Scripture is inerrant.
PCA: Teaches that Scripture is inerrant.
PCUSA: Church property belongs to the denomination.
PCA: Church property belongs to the local congregation without any right of reversion whatsoever to any Presbytery or General Assembly.
Abortion
PCUSA: Teaches that abortion can be “morally acceptable” though it “ought to be an option of last resort.”
PCA: Teaches that all abortions are wrong. (e.g., “Abortion would terminate the life of an individual, a bearer of God's image, who is being divinely formed and prepared for a God-given role in the world.”)
Divorce
PCUSA: In 1952 the PCUSA General Assembly moved to amend sections of the Westminster Confession, eliminating "innocent parties" language, broadening the grounds to include no-fault divorce.
PCA: Teaches that divorce is a sin except in cases of adultery or desertion.
Homosexuality
PCUSA: In 2010, the General Assembly expressed that “The PCUSA has no consensus in the interpretation of Scripture on issues of same-sex practice.” Currently, homosexuals (both celibate and non-celibate) can serve as ministers and the churches endorses same-sex “blessing” ceremonies. Recently, the General Assembly amended the Book of Order to redefine marriage as between “two people” rather than between a man and a woman and allows ministers to perform any legal marriage between two people. That amendment will require the approval of a majority of the presbyteries before it will take effect.
PCA: Teaches that homosexual practice is sin.
Joe Carter is an editor for The Gospel Coalition and the co-author of How to Argue Like Jesus: Learning Persuasion from History’s Greatest Communicator.
Thanks for posting this.
In other words, John Knox would probably recognize the PCA. For the PCUSA, all bets are off...
An outsider’s suggestion: The PCA should simply change its name to the APC, the Actual Presbyterian Church.
This is a very helpful piece. Nice to know there is a Presbyterian denomination that isn’t apostate.
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Although I attend a PCUSA most of my life, I have never joined. I like the church that I was baptized in which is a Brethren Church (once it was called German Baptists and Duncards). I become disappointed with a church that fights over dogma. What they believe is simple and directly from the Bible.
http://brethrenchurch.org/upload/documents/Brethren_Documents_and_Resources/Brethren_Positions_on_Social_Issues_.pdf
PCUSA: of the world
PCA: of God
PCUSA board politics sound like those espoused by CPUSA, coincidence?
PCA: Christians, Patriots
PCUSA: Bolshevists, Secularists, Traitors, Hedonists
The PCUSA is the largest Presbyterian denomination in the U.S. PCUSA has approximately 10,038 congregations, 1,760,200 members, and 20,562 ministers. The denomination has been steadily losing members and churches since 1983, and has lost 37 percent of its membership since 1992.
They've been loosing members pretty much continually since the 1960s.
Bttt.
To continue with the PCUSA/PCA comparison:
Literacy
PCUSA: Membership and clergy alike are unable to read and understand plain writings translated into their own language (e.g. Scripture)
PCA: Literate; able to read scripture for meaning
Do any of you who are still protestants understand how absurd this sounds?
Yep.
PCUSA = CPUSA
For all intents and purposes.
RE: Do any of you who are still protestants understand how absurd this sounds?
I wouldn’t use the word “absurd”. I would use the word “sad”.
it simply shows how sinful human beings are and how throughout history, people forget and neglect God’s word by putting primacy on their “feelings” and personal wisdom.
I don’t think this problem exists only in “protestant” churches.
As someone who grew up in the RCC, trying to find a decent RCC church was oftentimes a chore, and sometimes impossible.
I was in the SSPX, then I got saved (Ephesians ch. 2),
... then I left both the Novus Ordo AND the SSPX in my rearview mirror.
(I do like Lubbock, TX, though.)
/sarc
haha
Thank you for posting this. I have asked several times over the years and have never gotten this clear an explanation.
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We are witnessing a "falling away" of monumental proportions, with many churches reduced to hollow shells "having the appearance of godliness but denying its power" and "always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth" (both quotes from 2 Timothy 3, ESV). This is a dangerous time for our rudderless society, signaling that even more perilous times lie ahead for the shrinking remnant of believers whose biblical views will becoming increasingly repugnant in an unbelieving world.
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