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Romeward Bound: Evaluating Why Protestants Convert to Catholicism
Center for Reformed Theology and Apologetics ^ | 05/31/14 | David Hagopian

Posted on 05/31/2014 3:30:55 PM PDT by boatbums

The Wizard of Oz has fascinated adults and children for many years. You know the story: a farm girl from Kansas finds herself in the middle of an unwelcomed adventure in an attempt to find the fanciful wizard, who, she hopes, will help her return home. After many trials and tribulations, she, along with her newfound friends, ultimately arrives at the Emerald City only to discover, much to her chagrin, that the "wizard" was really no wizard at all. He wasn't much of anything. In modern parlance, he was a wimp.

Believe it or not, many-a-Protestant claims to have experienced a disenchantment similar to that of Dorothy. And like the disenchanted Dorothy who just wanted to go home, so too these disenchanted Protestants want to go home. The home these Protestants long for, however, is not the home they left behind. These Protestants are Romeward bound.

True, the number of Protestant converts to Catholicism is less than the other way around. And there are less actual converts to Rome today than during previous points in the history of Catholicism. Nevertheless, there is something unique about this modern conversion phenomenon, since "the kind of converts appears to be quite different, with fewer obligatory conversions for such reasons as marriage. A significant number of Protestant evangelicals...are among those moving to Rome...."

Many evangelical Protestants are converting to "Roman obedience." Or, in the words of one such convert, they are "getting churched" or "poping." Jocularity aside, it is important for Protestants to come to grips with the reasons why these Neocatholics have set their compasses toward Rome, only then will Protestants be able to see some of the shortcomings of their espoused faith. Only then will they be able to meet the needs of those who are "taking the plunge."

(Excerpt) Read more at reformed.org ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; conversion; neocatholicism; romanism; romesweethome; swimmingthetiber
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Ex-Protestants offer numerous reasons for their shift to Rome, but the arguments are far from cogent.

As a former Roman Catholic, now Evangelical Christian, whatever reasons people have for leaving one faith tradition for another, it should be something well thought out and not done without ALL the facts and information being considered. Fortunately, our Lord God is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. (Psalm 34:18) It is never too late to receive the truth of the Gospel and be saved.

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Ephesians 2:8,9)

1 posted on 05/31/2014 3:30:56 PM PDT by boatbums
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To: boatbums

Link doesn’t seem to lead to the rest of the article...?


2 posted on 05/31/2014 3:34:28 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: boatbums

Because they don’t know any better...


3 posted on 05/31/2014 3:36:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: boatbums

Same old, same old (2002): http://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/45/45-3/45-3-PP451-472_JETS.pdf


4 posted on 05/31/2014 3:41:34 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; boatbums

Yep, that link isn’t going to the article.


5 posted on 05/31/2014 3:42:29 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: boatbums

The Great and Powerful Jeff makes a prediction: This is going to be a mean, nasty thread.


6 posted on 05/31/2014 3:44:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

This is the location:

http://www.reformed.org/webfiles/antithesis/index.html?mainframe=/webfiles/antithesis/v1n5/ant_v1n5_romeward.html


7 posted on 05/31/2014 3:45:10 PM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: boatbums

Here’s a response to the original work: http://newchristendom.blogspot.com/2011/09/response-to-david-hagopians-romeward.html


8 posted on 05/31/2014 3:46:05 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: boatbums

Link not right.


9 posted on 05/31/2014 3:46:32 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: boatbums

Linky repair?


10 posted on 05/31/2014 3:47:47 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: boatbums

More such works (Protestants trying to explain why Protestants leave Protestantism for the Catholic Faith):

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-protestants-explain-or-explain-away.html


11 posted on 05/31/2014 3:49:27 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: boatbums

My trek has gone from Methodist to Lutheran, but if I were to take the next step, why should I stop at Rome? Why not revert all the way and become Orthodox?


12 posted on 05/31/2014 3:49:53 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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As a former Roman Catholic, now Evangelical Christian, whatever reasons people have for leaving one faith tradition for another, it should be something well thought out and not done without ALL the facts and information being considered.

It should be. RC-ism that I run into is an alien world.

I've only run into this once, in my personal circle of friends. My best friend in college, best man at my wedding, fell in among Jesuits in the Army, far from home and in a difficult period in his life. The Jesuits took up their reason for existing, and next thing I hear he's joined the Roman Catholic church. His reasons then (this was 20+ years ago, and I haven't seen him in over a decade), it was all about authority.

13 posted on 05/31/2014 3:51:09 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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I always liked how Jason Stellman put it:

In a word, I fought the Church, and the Church won. And what it did was beat me, but it didn’t draw me, entice me, or lure me by playing upon some deep, latent psychosis or desire on my part for something Protestantism just couldn’t provide. Catholicism went from being so obviously ridiculous that it wasn’t even worth bothering to oppose, to being something whose claims were so audacious that I couldn’t help opposing them. But what it never was, was attractive, and in many ways it still isn’t.

But what Catholicism is, I have come to discover, is true.

http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2012/09/i-fought-the-church-and-the-church-won/


14 posted on 05/31/2014 3:51:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
http://www.reformed.org/webfiles/antithesis/index.html?mainframe=/webfiles/antithesis/v1n5/ant_v1n5_romeward.html
15 posted on 05/31/2014 3:52:26 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: boatbums

I think some culturally conservative Protestants are attracted to Rome’s stance on abortion and other social issues, plus they long to be part of something really huge.


16 posted on 05/31/2014 3:52:54 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: chajin

What makes Orthodox all the way back? The Catholic Church came first, and the Orthodox split off.


17 posted on 05/31/2014 3:53:17 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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I always liked how Jason Stellman put it:

Jason seems quite narcissistically obsessed.

18 posted on 05/31/2014 3:53:37 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field

“Jason seems quite narcissistically obsessed.”

No more so than Luther or Calvin. A personal conversion story for someone who is already a professed Christian is going to have to include a fair amount of “I” and “me” statements. How else could it be written?


19 posted on 05/31/2014 3:56:02 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Oh, now you’ve done it. You’ve made a historically accurate claim about Christianity in a thread filled with Protestants. Who knows what could happen now!


20 posted on 05/31/2014 3:57:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
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