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The Ark: Could Noah's Tale Be True?
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| March 28, 2014
| Benjamin Radford
Posted on 04/01/2014 5:04:11 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
The new film "Noah" stars Russell Crowe as the man chosen by God to collect pairs of Earth's animals on a massive ark to save them from a global flood. The film, which opened March 28, is sizing up to be a Biblical blockbuster, replete with star power and stunning special effects. But how realistic is it?
While many people consider the story of Noah's Ark merely an instructive myth or parable about God's punishment for man's wickedness, others believe that the story is historically accurate. To them, Noah's tale describes events that really happened only a few thousand years ago.
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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; catastrophism; coracle; cuneiform; fable; fauxiantrolls; godsgravesglyphs; hollywood; irvingfinkel; moviereview; myth; noah; noahsflood; noahthemovie
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To: EveningStar
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posted on
04/01/2014 9:26:59 PM PDT
by
jonno
(Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
To: NKP_Vet
What do you mean,
"... but no one is seeing it." ?
It's been seen, filmed, studied, and documented.
In my opinion, Jewish atheist Dr Irving Finkel created this "FAKE" tablet to make fun of the religion he despises.
From the article
The tablet that altered the story of Noah's Ark:
" The story of Noahs Ark has always captivated the minds of children. Many have walked animal miniatures two-by-two into toy boats, as they imagine the vessel that saved believers from 40 rainy days and nights of flood.
But it is a story that does not hold water with Dr Irving Finkel, the British Museum curator in charge of cuneiform inscriptions on tablets of clay from ancient Mesopotamia. Dr Finkel has decoded a 4,000-year-old terracotta-coloured tablet that purports to give the exact measurements of the Ark long before the biblical account was written.
This ark is circular, like a coracle boat, takes up half a football pitch and is enclosed in a length of rope that would reach from London to Edinburgh. It didnt have to go in any direction, it just had to float and survive the flood, he says pointing to the cuneiform marks, as if I was able to read the ancient language.
...Finkel, who describes himself as a Jewish atheist, says he does not believe the Ark existed, despite remains apparently being found at Mount Ararat in Turkey. He believes that the Judeans, taken to Babylon by King Nebuchadnezzar II, incorporated Babylonian mythology into the Torah, but gave the stories a new, moral dimension. ... "
Check out
Noah's Ark" has been found in Turkey, April 27, 2010.
Click on the photos below.
Noah's Ark found in turkey ( 4:56 )
Uploaded on Apr 28, 2010
" The remains of Noah's Ark have been found 12,000ft up a Turkish mountain, it was claimed today.
A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say carbon testing on remains found on Mount Ararat show they are 4,800 years old, around the time when the ark was said to be afloat.
But the group left themselves open to a critical backlash after they failed to reveal the location of their find or produce photographs of the exterior of the site.
The search for the physical remains of Noah's Ark has held a fascination for Christians, Jews and Muslims for hundreds of years. But despite various claims no scientific evidence has ever been found.
The team of 15 made the announcement of their find yesterday. They brought back from the site wooden remains and strands of rope which they believe was used for keeping animals.
Yeung Wing-cheung, a documentary filmmaker and member of the team from Hong Kong-based Noah's Ark Ministries International, said:'It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it.'
He said the structure had several compartments, some with wooden beams, which were believed to house animals. However early indications are it was a kind of cypress wood whereas the Bible says it was made of gopher wood.
Members of the Chinese team appeared with Turkish officials at a joint press conference on the evangelicals website where the potential importance of the discovery was hailed.
... "
Also, this one:
You might be interested in the
Hagopian-Lee to Simmons-Arslan 1989 Photo Near Mt. Ararat Strato-Volcano Summit or the old Armenian, George Hagopian's story on pages 73 through 92 of
Secrets of the Lost Races: New Discoveries of Advanced Technology in Ancient Civilizations .
This one is worth your time.
Noah's Ark, a Milestone in History ( 17:13 )
Published on Mar 19, 2014
A Mile-stone; History was made in the fact that for the first time in history the discovery of the prehistoric sites, burried in a lakebed of a glacier on Mt. Ararat in Turkey,
has been presented before the archaeological world by a scientist in their own scientific language at the ASOR 2013 Annual Meeting, November 20 - 23, Baltimore, U.S.A.
E-mail: arkinsight@gmail.com
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posted on
04/01/2014 9:33:31 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: NKP_Vet
I certainly believe it was a true event. Heck, I've read of people finding seashells and shark fossils on tops of mountains. Just about every ancient civilization of which we have their recorded histories had stories that matched that event. Hard to think it could have been all a myth or legend.
63
posted on
04/01/2014 9:37:15 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(Simul justis et peccator.)
To: SkyDancer
Thing is the world is so far more evil than anything that happened during Noahs time. Saying that, are we better morally than the people who died during that flood? I certainly think we are getting to the point where every man did what was right in his own eyes, but not yet where their thoughts are only evil continually. When the redeemed are removed from the earth and the influence of the Holy Spirit is taken away, THEN that will happen very quickly. God said he would never again destroy the earth with water, but he didn't say anything about fire.
64
posted on
04/01/2014 9:49:36 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(Simul justis et peccator.)
To: Iscool
Burckle crater and evidence in its sediments provide proof of an impact, and numerous Flood accounts describe extensive rains, with Genesis itself saying that “And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights.”
To: Star Traveler
I don’t have any desire to see it...and I like Russell Crowe as an actor (as a man, not so much).
66
posted on
04/01/2014 10:08:43 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(Simul justis et peccator.)
To: Viennacon
>>As I often say, the Bible is not written as a history textbook. Its a theological text, so always look out for metaphor and microcosmic visuals. Noah certainly passed down the story to his descendents.<<
What is your view? Metaphor, fable, true story? Where is the line drawn on what is miraculously true?
I’ve seen folks say without a doubt the 10 commandments are fact and not legend or metaphor. Yet they can’t accept the literal miracles of the Egyptian plagues and the Red Sea crossing. Yet in the same book we have the Law.
67
posted on
04/01/2014 11:05:50 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
To: eartrumpet
Plus the ark had a few windows. Scoop the poop and launch it out the window. Problem solved.
68
posted on
04/01/2014 11:09:29 PM PDT
by
redleghunter
(But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
To: SkyDancer
Honestly don’t know, but if not we are certainly headed in that direction.
There will be another judgment to end all things as we know them.
69
posted on
04/02/2014 3:27:55 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
(If the cross is not foolishness to the lost world then we have misrepresented the cross." S.L.)
To: eartrumpet
Seems if God can gather the animals and make the flood, He can control the animals for 6 weeks or so. More like 9 months. See Genesis 7 and 8.
To: Viennacon
Iriqoius Indians, Aztecs (not 100% sure which people/group,maybe Mayan) also have virtually the same historical tales of some such event. Don’t know what it means but it was eerie to hear it related.
71
posted on
04/02/2014 3:50:09 AM PDT
by
Safetgiver
( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
To: The Antiyuppie
Unlikely, since then the story would be about how Noah had to slowly migrate uphill a few dozen miles. Almost every culture with a flood legend (and it is nearly a universal story all around the world) speaks of the survivors using a boat of some kind, not walking away from very slowly rising water.
72
posted on
04/02/2014 5:37:17 AM PDT
by
Buggman
(returnofbenjamin.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
To: SunkenCiv
Any oxygen reduction that would prevent the lighting of fires would also prevent Noah from living.
73
posted on
04/02/2014 5:41:32 AM PDT
by
Buggman
(returnofbenjamin.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
To: Viennacon
To: Buggman
75
posted on
04/02/2014 6:19:52 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
To: Resettozero
That’s a nice story, but it isn’t so.
76
posted on
04/02/2014 6:21:50 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
To: Altariel
Dang, I already told the Roto-Rooter people it was you.
77
posted on
04/02/2014 6:22:33 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
To: Buggman; The Antiyuppie
The flood stories don’t by any means always have a boat in it. Many of them *don’t*.
78
posted on
04/02/2014 6:27:41 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
To: ClearCase_guy; DManA; eartrumpet
Sometimes I hear people talking about things like where all the water came from, or where it went afterward. Hello?! If God exists, He can create or destroy matter as needed. He has no need for raw materials or waste disposal.
79
posted on
04/02/2014 6:28:08 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
To: redleghunter
Ive seen folks say without a doubt the 10 commandments are fact and not legend or metaphor. Yet they cant accept the literal miracles of the Egyptian plagues and the Red Sea crossing. Yet in the same book we have the Law. I'm similarly perplexed by people who accept the 'red letter' sayings of Jesus in the gospels, but do not consider the same writers & documents to be reliable in other respects.
80
posted on
04/02/2014 6:35:11 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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