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Evolution is Most Certainly a Matter of Belief... and so is Christianity
Christian Headlines ^ | January 15, 2014 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 01/15/2014 8:57:46 AM PST by xzins

One of the most misleading headlines imaginable recently appeared over an opinion column published in USA Today. Tom Krattenmaker, a member of the paper’s Board of Contributors, set out to argue that there is no essential conflict between evolution and religious belief because the two are dealing with completely separate modes of knowing. Evolution, he argued, is simply “settled science” that requires no belief. Religion, on the other hand, is a faith system that is based in a totally different way of knowing—a form of knowing that requires belief and faith.

The background to the column is the recent data released by the Pew Research Center indicating that vast millions of Americans still reject evolution. As the Pew research documents, the rejection of evolution has actually increased in certain cohorts of the population. Almost six of ten who identify as Republicans now reject evolution, but so do a third of Democrats. Among evangelical Christians, 64% indicate a rejection of evolution, especially as an explanation for human origins. Krattenmaker is among those who see this as a great national embarrassment—and as a crisis.

In response, Krattenmaker makes this statement:

In a time of great divides over religion and politics, it’s not surprising that we treat evolution the way we do political issues. But here’s the problem: As settled science, evolution is not a matter of opinion, or something one chooses to believe in or not, like a religious proposition. And by often framing the matter this way, we involved in the news media, Internet debates and everyday conversation do a disservice to science, religion and our prospects for having a scientifically literate country.

So belief in evolution is not something one simply chooses to believe or to disbelieve, “like a religious proposition.” Instead, it is “settled science” that simply compels intellectual assent.

The problems with this argument are legion. In the first place, there is no such thing as “settled science.” There is a state of scientific consensus at any given time, and science surely has its reigning orthodoxies. But to understand the enterprise of science is to know that science is never settled. The very nature of science is to test and retest hypotheses and to push toward new discoveries. No Nobel prizes are awarded for settled science. Instead, those prizes are awarded for discoveries and innovations. Many of those prizes, we should note, were awarded in past years for scientific innovations that were later rejected. Nothing in science is truly settled.

If science is to be settled, when would we declare it settled? In 1500? 1875? 1960? 2013? Mr. Krattenmaker’s own newspaper published several major news articles in just the past year trumpeting “new” discoveries that altered basic understandings of how evolution is supposed to have happened, including a major discovery that was claimed to change the way human development was traced, opening new questions about multiple lines of descent.

But the most significant problem with this argument is the outright assertion that science and religion represent two completely separate modes and bodies of knowledge. The Christian understanding of truth denies this explicitly. Truth is truth. There are not different kinds of truth that operate by different intellectual rules.

Every mode of thinking requires belief in basic presuppositions. Science, in this respect, is no different than theology. Those basic presuppositions are themselves unprovable, but they set the trajectory for every thought that follows. The dominant mode of scientific investigation within the academy is now based in purely naturalistic presuppositions. And to no surprise, the theories and structures of naturalistic science affirm naturalistic assumptions.

“Religion”—to use the word Krattenmaker prefers—also operates on the basis of presuppositions. And those presuppositions are no less determinative. These operate akin to what philosopher Alvin Plantinga calls “properly basic beliefs.”

In any event, both require “belief” in order to function intellectually; and both require something rightly defined as faith. That anyone would deny this about evolution is especially striking, given the infamous gaps in the theory and the lack of any possible experimental verification. One of the unproven and unprovable presuppositions of evolution is uniformitarianism, the belief that time and physical laws have always been constant. That is an unproven and unprovable assumption.  Nevertheless, it is an essential presupposition of evolutionary science. It is, we might well say, taken on faith by evolutionists.

Consider, in contrast, another section of Tom Krattenmaker’s article:

For starters, “belief” means something different in a religion conversation than it means when we’re talking about science. In the case of faith, it usually means accepting the moral and spiritual truth of something and giving it your trust and devotion. In talking about evolution, it is more precise to call it “scientifically valid” or “an accurate account of what we observe.” No leaps of faith or life-altering commitments required.

He really does believe that science and theology operate in completely different worlds. The late Harvard paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould believed the same, arguing for science and religion as “non-overlapping magisteria.” But, as both scientists and theologians protested, science and religion overlap all the time.

Krattenmaker argues, “A scientific concept backed by an overwhelming amount of supporting evidence, evolution describes a process by which species change over time. It hazards no speculations about the origins of that process.”

But this is not even remotely accurate. Evolutionary scientists constantly argue for naturalistic theories of the origin of matter, energy, life—and the entire cosmos. The argument that the existence and form of the cosmos is purely accidental and totally without external (divine) agency is indeed central to the dominant model of evolution.

On one point, however, Krattenmaker is certainly right: he argues that it is possible to believe in God and to affirm evolution. That is certainly true, and there is no shortage of theistic evolutionists who try to affirm both. But that affirmation requires a rejection of the dominant model of evolution in favor of some argument that God intervened or directed the process. The main problem with that proposal, from the scientific side, is that the theory of evolution as now taught in our major universities explicitly denies that possibility. Theistic evolutionists simply do not present the model of evolution that is supposedly “settled science.”

On the other hand, such a blending of theology and evolution also requires major theological alignments. There can be no doubt that evolution can be squared with belief in some deity, but not the God who revealed himself in the Bible, including the first chapters of Genesis. Krattenmaker asserts that “it is more than possible to accept the validity of evolution and believe in God’s role in creation at the same time.” Well, that is true with respect to some concept of God and some concept of creation and some version of evolution, but not the dominant theory of evolution and not the God who created the entire cosmos as the theater of his glory, and who created human beings as the distinct creature alone made in his image.

I am confident that Tom Krattenmaker fully intended to clarify the matter and to point to a way through the impasse. But his arguments do not clarify, they confuse. At the same time, his essay is one of the clearest catalysts for thinking about these issues to arrive in recent times in the major media. It represents an opportunity not to be missed.

I am always glad to hear from readers. Write me at mail@albertmohler.com. Follow regular updates on Twitter at www.twitter.com/albertmohler


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: belief; biology; creation; creationism; evolution; religion; theology
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To: metmom; xzins; betty boop
Thanks for the beep!

Science, by all rights, should have no beef with the Judeo-Christian Tradition, but there are entirely too many who propose to use Science as a weapon with which to attack and destroy Judeo-Christianity.

101 posted on 01/15/2014 3:39:15 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Heartlander
Darwin and other Darwinists recognized that if morality was the product of mindless evolution, then there is no objective, fixed morality and thus no objective human rights.

Exactly being played out within the 'Beltway'.

102 posted on 01/15/2014 3:41:47 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: xzins
thus, great danes and Chihuahua comment.

Understand, you are explaining the adaptations that occur in microevolution. A type of bird on a certain island has a noticeable beak change. It does not change the kind of bird.

103 posted on 01/15/2014 3:45:09 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Texas Songwriter
Good post and everyone should also read Alvin Plantinga. William Murray sums up his argument pretty well IMO:
“If you do not assume the law of non-contradiction, you have nothing to argue about. If you do not assume the principles of sound reason, you have nothing to argue with. If you do not assume libertarian free will, you have no one to argue against. If you do not assume morality to be an objective commodity, you have no reason to argue in the first place.”
- William J Murray

104 posted on 01/15/2014 3:48:47 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander
What a great statement by Murray. No waisted words.

Have you read Plantinga much?

105 posted on 01/15/2014 3:51:46 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

I’ve read a few articles and watched a few debates online.


106 posted on 01/15/2014 3:57:07 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: redleghunter
Dated but a classic satire. No what think ye of this? One-Hour Oil Production? (article)
107 posted on 01/15/2014 3:57:54 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Heartlander

Agreed... Also Darwin’s treatise on evolution was the “ORIGIN of Species” not the Adaptation of Species. So, try as they might they will never convince thinking people that if a Bear falls into the ocean enough times it will eventually turn into a Fish.

I think that species adapt to their surroundings to enable further procreation. But, Darwin’s theory of evolution is not about that at all. It is all about how life forms come to be and how one life form can somehow produce a completely different one. So their efforts to separate themselves from their statements about how life magically appears will be unsuccessful in the end.


108 posted on 01/15/2014 4:01:38 PM PST by BizBroker (There is no "radical Islam", there is only Islam itself.)
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To: daniel1212

The link led to the latest articles page.


109 posted on 01/15/2014 4:03:25 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Texas Songwriter

IMO - William Lane Craig is also good (http://www.reasonablefaith.org/media))


110 posted on 01/15/2014 4:09:39 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: daniel1212
"...that "Faith is subjective confidence or trust in a person, thing, deity, or in the doctrines or teachings of a religion, or view (e.g. having strong political faith) without empirical evidence.""

That would describe a blind faith.

"As if God does not supply good warrant (if not scientific certainty) for a step of faith, and as taken and confirmed, consequently more for the next one."

Amen to that.2 Peter 1 speaks directly to your point...
"Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."

also...

"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount."

and yet more...

"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts."

Here is a man who knows he is about to die and yet foremost in his mind is giving reason for faith.Giving reason to those who will follow.Telling those who diligently seek it that God will give it in abundance and that those who take it will never fall!

N.E.V.E.R. F.A.L.L.

Still...'faith'...sounds like a word churchy folks use,so there can't be any real evidence because,well,there just can't.

111 posted on 01/15/2014 4:13:46 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Heartlander
I have about 12 books Craig wrote. I love his writing. His good friend, J.P.Moreland is a great writer. He is more or less concentrated on the metaphysical nature of consciousness and mental events. He has a great book entitled, Consciousness and the Existence of God. I have underlined about every third line in the book. He is extremely fair in presenting competing arguments. I highly recommend Dr. Moreland.
112 posted on 01/15/2014 4:14:11 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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Theistic Evolution Explained
Three geologists stand at the foot of Mt. Rushmore. The first geologist says, "This mountain depicts perfectly the faces of four U.S. Presidents, it must be the work of a master sculptor." The second says, "You are a geologist, you should know that all mountains were created by natural forces, such as volcanoes and plate movements, the details were then sculpted by erosion from water and wind. How could you possibly think this was the work of an intelligent sculptor? Only a person completely ignorant of geophysics could think those faces were designed."

The third geologist says to himself, "I don't want to be seen as ignorant, but the faces in this mountain sure do look like they were designed." So he thinks a moment and says to the second geologist, "Of course you are right, these faces were sculpted by natural forces such as erosion. Only an ignorant person would think they were designed." Then he turns to the first and says, "But what a magnificent result, there obviously must have been a master sculptor standing by and watching."


113 posted on 01/15/2014 4:19:02 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

I’m very familiar with JP Moreland. I read ‘Scaling the Secular City’ many years ago (a difficult read) and it had an impact on my life - years later I read ‘Love Your God with All Your Mind’ and it also had an impact...


114 posted on 01/15/2014 4:26:42 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: BizBroker
… the naturalist believes that beneath every natural phenomenon there exists yet another natural phenomenon. If explanation by reference to an endless stack of large turtles is silly, then an explanation by reference to an endless stack of natural phenomena would be equally so. The naturalist's answer for the origin of life, therefore, is some natural phenomenon. (Which one is not particularly relevant.) When you ask them how that natural phenomenon came to be, their response boils down to: "It's natural phenomena all the way down!"
-Pete Chadwell

115 posted on 01/15/2014 4:44:54 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Another good book from Moreland is “Kingdom Triangle.” Highly recommend as well. Reminded me of a Francis Schaeffer tome.


116 posted on 01/15/2014 6:10:51 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: GarySpFc

Good thread. Ping.


117 posted on 01/15/2014 6:12:52 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

FYI: Total Truth by Nancy Pearcey is a fresh take on Schaeffer - (or it was a few years ago) - it’s a good read...


118 posted on 01/15/2014 6:29:09 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander

Thanks. Heard that but have not picked it up. Will add it to the list.


119 posted on 01/15/2014 6:36:06 PM PST by redleghunter
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“The gospel is like a caged lion,' said the great baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon. 'It does not need to be defended, it simply needs to be let out of it's cage' Today, the cage is our accommodation to the secular/sacred split that reduces Christianity to a matter of personal belief. To unlock the cage, we need to become utterly convinced that, as Francis Schaeffer said, Christianity is not merely religious truth, it is total truth- truth about the whole of reality.”
― Nancy Pearcey, Total Truth: Liberating Christianity from Its Cultural Captivity
120 posted on 01/15/2014 7:16:36 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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