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Posted on 12/19/2013 6:23:30 AM PST by Stingray
Several months ago someone sent me a copy of a book: 2008 God’s Final Witness, by Ronald Weinland. It was suggested to me that perhaps I should challenge Mr. Weinland to debate me. As I scanned the book, I decided that the best response overall was to allow time to respond to Mr. Weinland, and my thinking has been vindicated.
You see, Mr. Weinland claims that, “When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, there will be a maximum of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time in human history” (p. 244). Mr. Weinland is (was) so absolutely positive of his predictions that he actually claimed to be one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11, “I am God’s end-time witness and spokesman” (p. 111). So, here we are in 2012, nothing, absolutely nothing that Mr. Weinland-- God's final witness!!-- predicted has come true.
(Excerpt) Read more at eschatology.org ...
First the request: please provide a "full preterism caucus" for the discussion of topics relating to fulfilled Bible prophecy.
Now, the discussion. Mr. Preston closes his article, linked above, with the following:
"It is time, past time, for Bible students to accept the inspired truth that the events of the end were near in the first century, and they were fulfilled in the first century, just as predicted. All futurist eschatologies are false. Men such as Mr. Weinland are an embarrassment to the cause of the truth of Christ, and give the skeptics of the world ammunition for their attacks on the Lord."
I couldn't agree more. I know there are several people on this site as tired as I am of seeing false promises, false prophecies, and false teachers proclaiming the "soon return" of Christ. Yet many are afraid to speak up because of the tactics of Futurists, who use Alinsky-ite tactics to debase discussion through inflammatory rhetoric and ridicule.
If you're as tired as I am of these false teachers and false promises, let's discuss what Christ, His apostles, and history really say about these things.
Merry Christmas!
“When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, there will be a maximum of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time in human history”
Two years, huh? That would be 2008 when Obama was elected.
I'm impressed.
I’ve had preterist friends who were quite dedicated to their point of view. I’m premillenial, but I too get tired of the idiotic predictions and sensationalism.
Bad time in American history, to be sure, but Obama’s election has nothing to do with Weinland’s predictions about the coming of Christ.
I would only add that I will be willing, as time allows, to answer any sincere questions asked about the preterist point of view, especially as it relates to full preterism.
Like the Delphi oracle, his predictions just need to be correctly interpreted....come to think of it, so do Obama’s promises.
I’m in for joining a full preterism caucus.
Doesn't matter that many nations are martyring Christians and that Christ's government is not visible since He has to be back - in their view.
Please define so I know if I can participate or should butt out.
When you say fulfilled Bible prophecy are you saying that all prophecy has been fulfilled or there is still some waiting?
Full preterism is the view that holds all Biblical prophecy to be fulfilled, especially as it relates to Christ’s prophecies regarding the end of the age with a first century fulfillment.
That’s what I thought. I just read your sentence a bit differently!
Sorry to be a bother, have a nice thread.
Does the preterist view teach that at some point Jesus will return to the earth to rule? Feel free to refer me to helpful posts/websites if you prefer. Thanks.
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