How Can Mary Hear Thousands Simultaneously?

Tim Staples' Blog ^ | October 31, 2013 | Tim Staples

[GonzoII]

Luk 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

Gen 18:14 Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

Num 11:23 And the LORD said unto Moses, Is the LORD's hand
waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass
unto thee or not.

Jer 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and
the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is
nothing too hard for thee.

Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is
impossible; but with God all things are possible.

[Arthur McGowan]

Mary lives in eternity. Her relationship to time is therefore not like ours. The objection that she cannot do this and that “simultaneously” is therefore meaningless.

[GonzoII]

"Her relationship to time is therefore not like ours."

Thank you Father Mac.

[oblomov]

This sort of question seems trivial compared to more serious questions of faith.

[campaignPete R-CT]

yes. Time is part of creation.

I do hear peculiar comments from many that the saints in Heaven and God Himself are moving through time, just as we are. Silly.

And if one tried to define eternity, it is not, “an infinite amount of time.” It is closer to “an absence of time.”

[Dr. Sivana]

In order for Mary to hear all those prayers at once she would have to be omniscient (“all-knowing”)—an attribute that is the property of God alone.

Even if we accept that the saints and angels are in time in the same manner as we are, it does not follow that Mary would have to be omniscient; knowing a lot isn't the same as knowing everything. Even though there are MANY prayers offered, there are not an infinite number.

[GonzoII]

"And if one tried to define eternity, it is not, “an infinite amount of time.” It is closer to “an absence of time.”

That's a good way to put it....still a mystery for us this side of the Jordan.

[pgyanke]

This sort of question seems trivial compared to more serious questions of faith.

And yet it divides Christians from one another. That makes it far from trivial. All denominations agree on at least 95% of doctrine so we tend to argue over the fringes. Whatever divides God's House is not a minor issue.

[Vermont Lt]

Sometimes you give the Sunnis and Shiites a run for their money.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

If the NSA can do it, why not Mary?

[Salvation]

The power of God dims our human perceptions. Praise God that He knows what is happening all over the world.

[epluribus_2]

We ask Mary to pray for us. We do not pray TO Mary to do anything requiring godlike powers. If the saints can hear us pray - why not pray to the one closest to Christ?

[rjsimmon]

We ask Mary to pray for us. We do not pray TO Mary to do anything requiring godlike powers. If the saints can hear us pray - why not pray to the one closest to Christ?

Symantics. You are still praying TO Mary. She has nothing to do with you any longer. Christ is the one to whom we pray. There is NO mediator between man and God except Christ Jesus (1 Tim 2:5). Anything else is heresy.

[GonzoII]

"If the NSA can do it, why not Mary?"

Lol.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“And when [Christ, the lamb] had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints…”

The Elders and the 4living creatures HOLD THE PRAYERS BEFORE CHRIST.

Nowhere are the prayers DIRECTED to the elders or creatures.
Nowhere is it written that they HEARD the prayers.

Roman eisogesis fail.

[GonzoII]

"And when [Christ, the lamb] had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints…”"

"The Elders and the 4living creatures HOLD THE PRAYERS
BEFORE CHRIST.

Nowhere are the prayers DIRECTED to the elders or creatures. Nowhere is it written that they HEARD the prayers.

Roman eisogesis fail."

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The rising smoke of incense is a visible sign of prayers
ascending to God, so they are obviously actual prayers,
and not their own, but rather those of the Saints the knowledge
of which they have come to know:

Ps 141:2 Let my prayer be directed as incense in thy sight; the lifting up of my hands, as evening sacrifice.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Repeat Roman Eisogesis Fail

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The rising smoke of incense is a visible sign of prayers
ascending to God, so they are obviously actual prayers,
and not their own, but rather those of the Saints the knowledge
of which they have come to know:”

Nothing says the elders KNOW anything about what they hold.
Further, the prayers are from those under the alter who have been martyred in during the end times judgements.

[metmom]

She can’t.

She’s not God.

[GonzoII]

"Nothing says the elders KNOW anything about what they hold."

When one offers prayer he obviously knows what he is saying.

[metmom]

Luke 11:1-13 Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” And he said to them, “When you pray, say:

“Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.”

And he said to them, “Which of you who has a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves, for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; and he will answer from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed. I cannot get up and give you anything’?

I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his impudence he will rise and give him whatever he needs. And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

Hebrews 4:14-16 Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Jesus tells us clearly that God the Father Himself will hear and answer our prayers Himself.

The only reason people could have for praying to someone else is because they don't believe that God says what He means, or that He doesn't care enough to be bothered, or that He just won't answer and they think that they can get from someone else what God Himself won't give them.