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Can A Person Intentionally "Up" Their Tolerance To Alcohol To Avoid The Sin Of Drunkenness?
10/12/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 12/10/2013 11:03:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

If a person starts out at point x (the level at which their present imbibing of alcoholic beverages will get them drunk) and ups it to point y over a period of time (be it a short or long period of time), will God judge them by the point x sin of drunkenness or the new point at which they get drunk (point y)?

If a person gets drunk at point x, and social drinking over a period of time unintentionally causes them to develop more and more tolerance to alcohol, then must they stay at point x?

If not, is God judging some by one standard and others at a different standard? What if someone can never develop tolerance or more and more tolreance, be it intentionally or not? Can some do certain things while others can't

Can this apply to many other areas of life, where some can get away with things and others can't?


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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I agree with him. Go clean out your garage or something.


81 posted on 12/10/2013 4:12:02 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Excellence
authorities say (at least in California) that .08 is drunk.

Without driving? While it wouldn't surprise me if Cali had a law defining drunkedness in general, not all law is godly law.

82 posted on 12/10/2013 4:56:41 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

If you want to “negotiate” with God as to what level of drunkeness is “sinful,” you go right ahead. But I think you are asking the wrong question.


83 posted on 12/10/2013 5:22:33 PM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I just can’t help myself.....this is the absolute dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in regards to faith.


84 posted on 12/10/2013 6:41:35 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: elkfersupper
If a cop asks you during a traffic stop if you had anything to drink that day and you answer in the affirmative, you're going to jail and getting hung with a DWI and all that involves.

totally untrue...if you blow a breathalizer at .08, you are intoxicated, if you don't, you go on your merry way and no arrest is, nor can be, made.

85 posted on 12/10/2013 8:16:30 PM PST by terycarl (common sense rules overall)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Didn’t you post some other threads and get told they were dumb and inane?

Read for another year or two.


86 posted on 12/10/2013 8:21:14 PM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Gamecock

Better question, why would a Christian even consider doing this?

*****

Illness. PTSD and self-medication doesn’t make one any less of a Christian than cancer does for those who take radiation and chemo.

Talk about the body being a temple! Discuss.


87 posted on 12/10/2013 9:07:00 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

This isn’t a question about alcoholism. I believe that there will be some alcoholics in Heaven and plenty of sober folks in Hell. Some Christians will beat alcoholism, some won’t.

This is a question about playing around with God’s law, streching the boundries to redefine what God intended.

Let’s rephrase the question just a bit to demonstrate my point.

-What does it mean to lie? If I just tell a white lie..
-How far is too far, kissing isn’t adultry, is it?
-The cashier gave me too much change. It’s not stealing, she should have been more careful!

The issue is what we saw in the garden, “did God really say… “


88 posted on 12/11/2013 4:17:35 AM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: elkfersupper

We could at least drink and smoke during the last great depression.


Right, our Church and country both were said to stand for freedom but i think they have both been hijacked.


89 posted on 12/11/2013 6:30:41 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Jesus explains it to where even i can understand it.

Mathew 15
10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand:

11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”


90 posted on 12/11/2013 7:01:48 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: servantboy777

I just can’t help myself.....this is the absolute dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in regards to faith.


Would this describe it?

Mathew 23
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.


91 posted on 12/11/2013 7:26:20 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: US Navy Vet

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


According to Paul drinking does not defile the body which is the temple of the holy ghost
1Cor 6
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.


92 posted on 12/11/2013 7:40:25 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Boogieman

“. . .tolerance does increase the amount you can drink before those symptoms begin to manifest.”

Yes. . .it’s called “masking”


93 posted on 12/11/2013 11:18:11 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

No, this is something completely different. Your liver actually can get more efficient at processing alcohol, so that you can drink more without reaching the concentration of alcohol in your blood (or more importantly in your brain) that would cause symptoms to appear. Of course, with sustained heavy drinking, your liver will get less efficient, so there is a point of diminishing returns.


94 posted on 12/11/2013 11:42:59 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: terycarl
totally untrue...if you blow a breathalizer at .08, you are intoxicated, if you don't, you go on your merry way and no arrest is, nor can be, made.

B.S. "impaired" means impaired by coffee, tea, otc or prescription medications, body fat or whatever the cop on the side of the road wants you to be "impaired" by.

There are a lot of cases out there where people were prosecuted for DWI with a 0.000% breath or blood alcohol content.

95 posted on 12/11/2013 1:39:46 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
There are a lot of cases out there where people were prosecuted for DWI with a 0.000% breath or blood alcohol content.

nonsense...they were either under the influence of drugs or had an incompetant attorney!

96 posted on 12/12/2013 8:37:04 PM PST by terycarl (common sense rules overall)
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To: terycarl
nonsense...they were either under the influence of drugs or had an incompetant attorney!

B.S. It happens.

And by the way the word is "incompetent".

97 posted on 12/13/2013 2:19:44 PM PST by elkfersupper
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