Posted on 12/10/2013 11:03:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
If a person starts out at point x (the level at which their present imbibing of alcoholic beverages will get them drunk) and ups it to point y over a period of time (be it a short or long period of time), will God judge them by the point x sin of drunkenness or the new point at which they get drunk (point y)?
If a person gets drunk at point x, and social drinking over a period of time unintentionally causes them to develop more and more tolerance to alcohol, then must they stay at point x?
If not, is God judging some by one standard and others at a different standard? What if someone can never develop tolerance or more and more tolreance, be it intentionally or not? Can some do certain things while others can't
Can this apply to many other areas of life, where some can get away with things and others can't?
“This is not a better tolerance, but an ability to mask symptoms.”
Nah, tolerance increases with use, and tolerance does increase the amount you can drink before those symptoms begin to manifest.
You can raise your tolerance from any level of drinking, even if it is not enough to get you drunk.
“We’ve upped our standards. Now, up yours.”
“The only way to increase your tolerance for alcohol is to get drunk, so no.”
Sorry, but you’re dead wrong.
I quit drinking in my 20’s for several different reasons and I had only been what could be termed “drunk” a couple of times ever.
22 years later I started drinking a couple couple of 4 oz glasses of wine a day for my health. For the first week or so that small amount actually made me tipsy. Not drunk, mind you, just a bit unsteady.Basically I had 0 tolerance.
After a month or so it wouldn’t have any effect on me whatsoever. I never got drunk during this period but my tolerance just slowly increased.
Most of tolerance to alcohol is your brain learning to navigate the fog, if you don’t get the fog your brain never learns to navigate it. Regular small amount helps your body deal with the toxic effects, but it won’t help you stay sober while drinking.
Tipsy is drunk with fewer negative connotations, some thing different words. If you got to “a bit unsteady” you were drunk, maybe not as drunk as you used to get, but once your motor skills are affected we’re now quibbling about how drunk but you are definitely drunk at that point.
How pious of you, nice to know you are looking out for the rest of humanity.
You are into Ad Hominem attacks, huh?
Please emphasize “sin” regarding these rationalizations.
“I can handle it”
“I know what I’m doing”
Sometimes those rationalizations can help when confronting new challenges. Kids can take every word an adult says quite literally :-). I can’t argue the others you listed :-).
1 Corinthians 6:19
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
You need a drink....
I disagree. Was definately not drunk legally or otherwise.
Your motor skills ARE affected even after one beer just so subtly most people are unaware of the change.
After 22 years of abstinence I was accutely aware of it.
I took him to mean that the sin lies in willfully incapacitating oneself— so when the incapacity is detected, you have to stop. So if your tolerance increases, you can drink more without being a drunk.
When discussing “I can handle it” or “I know what I’m doing” we are usually discussing it in the context of false pride. I think the kids get it.
But I see your point. And that’s why these rationalizations are dangerous, particularly to a bunch of kids who tend to be high-achievers. Satan has a way of twisting your strengths into weaknesses.
By the way, I will find a way to give this “talk” about twice a year just to emphasize it and make sure everyone who comes through my class hears it.
Tipsy is drunk, don’t just take my word for it:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tipsy
1. slightly intoxicated or drunk.
And if you were “unsteady” then you were also impaired, which means that legally you definitely were drunk.
How diversionary of you.
Ok, fair enough. :)
And I apologize, too, if I knee-jerked that one.
Better question, why would a Christian even consider doing this?
But one (even he) should know that tolerance will increase as the weeks and years go by, and - even for him - he thus should never go beyond the starting point (point x) when he began to drink alocoholic beverages, and thus never go to point y - willfully or not.
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