At least a Maronite Mass would keep someone from sleeping.
Posted on 12/05/2013 8:59:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Pope Francis is undergoing a popularity surge comparable to the way Barack Obama was greeted by the world in 2008. And just as President Obama has been a disappointment for America, Pope Francis will prove a disaster for the Catholic Church.
My fellow Catholics should be suspicious when bastions of anti-Catholicism in the left-wing media are in love with him.
Much is being made of his ‘compassion’ and ‘humility,’ but kissing babies and hugging the sick is nothing new. Every pope in recent memory has done the same, yet only now are the media paying attention. Benedict XVI and John Paul II refused to kowtow to the liberal agenda, and so such displays of tenderness were under-covered.
But Francis is beating a retreat for the Catholic Church, and making sure its controversial doctrines are whispered, not yelled – no wonder the New York Times is in love....
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
What Fox News (and all the others) don’t get is that Pope Francis, when he speaks (or writes) ... he is speaking universally ... not just about the USA. They don’t get that.
I have seen a couple of people say this around here and I still don't get what it means. I can accept that we may be misreading him, though I am equally inclined to think he is likely misspeaking, but how does universality change anything? If a man says that free markets and economic growth are not going to bring about greater justice and inclusiveness, how is that meliorated by saying it isn't about the US but everybody? I can't possibly understand a difference in that. Either a person recognizes that economic prosperity gives people opportunities, jobs and the dignity they provide, food on their table, and shelter over their heads, or they don't. Whether I dislike capitalism in this country or everywhere hardly changes what my opinion represents and means in regard to prosperity and freedom. A universal authoritarian is also a local authoritarian.
Repeat After Me: Subsidiarity & Solidarity
Subsidiarity and Human Dignity
Does the USCCB Understand Subsidiarity?
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Principle of Subsidiarity
[CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX CAUCUS] Subsidiarity Over Social Justice
What is the USCCB’s problem with subsidiarity?
Subsidiarity: Where Justice and Freedom Coexist
Health reform still full of thorny problems for Catholics (Vasa comes out for subsidiarity)
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Subsidiarity, [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Catholic Word of the Day: SUBSIDIARITY, 06-11-09
I have the same questions. You stated your points so well, cothrige, there's no need for me to repeat ;-)
bttt
Why is it when we finally get the straight scoop from Pope Francis rather than thru media filters we get a whole different picture?
Any one who believes Capitalism is unfettered should try going into business for themselves.
It is said that approximately 50 percent of businesses fail in the first year. the numbers go way up after that.
I have been there and the biggest reason is Government regulations, the main purpose of the regulation is for the many dollars the government get for selling you the regulation, permits for every thing under the sun.
The other part is that if you follow the regulation blindly you will be more apt to go broke.
Note, i was not talking about running a lemonade stand but from what i have heard it is hard for kids to do that any more.
Unfettered capitalism? just a dammed big lie except for the ones who support the socialist agenda.
America,s problem is not unfettered Capitalism but watered down Capitalism.
Why is it when we finally get the straight scoop from Pope Francis rather than thru media filters we get a whole different picture?
Any one who believes Capitalism is unfettered should try going into business for themselves.
It is said that approximately 50 percent of businesses fail in the first year. the numbers go way up after that.
I have been there and the biggest reason is Government regulations, the main purpose of the regulation is for the many dollars the government get for selling you the regulation, permits for every thing under the sun.
The other part is that if you follow the regulation blindly you will be more apt to go broke.
Note, i was not talking about running a lemonade stand but from what i have heard it is hard for kids to do that any more.
Unfettered capitalism? just a dammed big lie except for the ones who support the socialist agenda.
America,s problem is not unfettered Capitalism but watered down Capitalism.
I would suggest that Adam Shaw read up on subsidiarity. It starts at the lowest form of help — church community and then trickles up.
But most of it pours into liberal organizations and every other place where it should not go, too numerous to mention.
St. Peter and the disciples were unfettered capitalists:
Unfettered means “unshackled, liberated” [Webster 1887]
John21:3 ff
“3 Simon Peter said to them, “I am going fishing.” They said to him, “We will also come with you.” They went out and got into the boat; and that night they caught nothing.
4But when the day was now breaking, Jesus stood on the beach; yet the disciples did not know that it was Jesus. 5So Jesus said to them, “Children, you do not have any fish, do you?” They answered Him, “No.” 6And He said to them, “Cast the net on the right-hand side of the boat and you will find a catch.” So they cast, and then they were not able to haul it in because of the great number of fish.”
Then the truth came out and it was discovered that we didn't have a madman at the helm.
Now he speaks on the economy and the powers-that-be have equated him with Marx and Obama.
I am sorry, but I don't believe the media. I am going to wait for the proper explanation.
I posted what I did just because.
That is my very point. Most of the people who are reporting on the whole subject are using every opportunity they can find to marginalize the work of this Pope. And then there are the conservatives who do not have a large enough historical and philosophical background to understand what he is really talking about.
The Leftists hate him, his guts and all of us who are real Catholics. I will not take the word of any leftist or any other person who does not know the real scoop.
I will not take the word of any leftist or any other person who does not know the real scoop.
Why? I don't know. But I think what he's getting at with all of these messages he's been telling the world since he was chosen as pope is that we need to live in a Christ-like manner. Help the needy. Forgive the sinner. Pray for our enemies. The very things that Christ spoke about.
My point exactly. Thank you.
Good questions ... understandable. I think my point with Fox and the other news stations ... especially these blow-hard talk show hosts that seem to enjoy hearing themselves speak ... tend to hear what the pope is saying based on their political leanings ... leanings that are found mostly in our country. That said, I think that the pope is intending for this message to be for the people, not necessarily the leaders to hear. I believe, as I'm sure you do too, that charity best belongs in the hands of the people, not the government. We are the ones that need to take our capitalist dollars ... which God has blessed us with ... and use what we can to help those that are in need.
But as I said, I haven't read this document cover to cover yet. I may learn more as I read it ... maybe I'm just not seeing what these others are seeing in it. If I do, I'll be sure to post it here.
Have you read this yet?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3098569/posts
Ha, getting my Catholic news from FoxNews, thanks but no thanks. American media is singularly incapable of understanding the Church.
They have a popular prophet
I am also detecting a pattern from the pope in these things which makes me rather uncomfortable. He starts out saying disconcerting things which just happen to be very popular among those who dislike Catholic social doctrine very much, and then he "clarifies" this in a much less publicised way that only those desperately seeking something less frightening to hold onto will go in search of. This allows the pope to get the support of the left and the anti-traditional, and yet still gives those who are more orthodox an out that they can use to assuage their doubts about him. A win/win, but a bit too political and convenient, as well as being confusing and contradictory if actually looked at closely. I am reminded a bit of the governor in The Best Little W***ehouse in Texas when he keeps saying contradictory things about whether he is going to close down the Chicken Ranch, and we in the pews are like the reporters trying to figure out if what he said meant yes or no. So, is homosexuality a sin? Are atheists saved? Are capitalism and free market economics evil? Well, that's a possible maybe.
oh, boy......you can’t miss this thread.
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