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A Sad Walk Through An ELCA Seminary
Exposing the ELCA ^ | 10/30/13 | Tom Brock

Posted on 10/31/2013 3:38:03 AM PDT by rhema

(I received this the other day. It's written by Pastor Tom Brock) -

Today I walked through my old alma mater, Luther Theological Seminary in St Paul, Mn. It is known as probably the most conservative of the ELCA seminaries. You wouldn’t know it from the number of gay/lesbian bumper stickers in the parking lot. Upon entering the main building a sign was up promoting a new book at Luther’s Bookstore, “Pastrix” by ELCA Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber. She was a favorite speaker at the ELCA Youth Assembly and a few months ago spoke at the historic Central Lutheran Church in downtown Minneapolis—using the “f” word in her speech. I flipped through her new book and she repeatedly uses the “f” word, referring to the 12 disciples as a “bunch of “f” ups”. Former ELCA Head Bishop Mark Hanson praises the book on the dustcover. Even more disturbing is that Bolz-Weber in a sermon on Christ the King Sunday denied that Christ died in our place to pay for our sins. To quote:

And just to be clear: The cross is not about God as divine child abuser sadly sending his little boy off to be killed because we were bad and well, somebody had to pay.

Can someone deny the things of “first importance” as Paul puts it in I Corinthians 15:3, and still be a Christian? Yet she is a favorite speaker at ELCA events.

This attack on Christ’s substitutionary atonement is also going on at the ELCA’s Wartburg Seminary. Professor of New Testament David Lull wrote this:

" . . .I can’t get past the idea that God had a thirst for innocent blood that had to be quenched, or that God’s justice required a death-penalty for sinners until Jesus’ death satisfied God’s wrath. Even if Bible passages can be made to support these ideas, I can’t get past the idea that God had been unforgiving before Jesus died. That’s not the God I find in the Bible."

“Even if” the Bible teaches it, Professor Lull rejects it.

So now the day has come that the ELCA allows pastors and professors to deny the central teaching of the Christian faith: that sinless Jesus Christ died in our place to pay for our sins so that we could receive the forgiveness of God.

Like I said, a very sad day walking through Luther Seminary.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Other non-Christian
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To: garyb

Good to hear!


41 posted on 10/31/2013 7:04:34 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: old and tired

Nadia Bolz-Weber seems to be little more than one more New Age nut, who may well share a barber with Janet Napolitano. Bob


42 posted on 11/04/2013 1:14:52 PM PST by alstewartfan ("If I had known last summer... I'd have never set my foot inside this bleak and bitter land." Al S)
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To: rhema
And just to be clear: The cross is not about God as divine child abuser sadly sending his little boy off to be killed because we were bad and well, somebody had to pay.

The little heretic is correct, but she doesn't realize why. God willingly got on the cross himself.

43 posted on 11/04/2013 1:19:44 PM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: rhema; All

Notice this Preacher is one of the stories at Drudge Report right now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bolz-webers-liberal-foulmouthed-articulation-of-christianity-speaks-to-fed-up-believers/2013/11/03/7139dc24-3cd3-11e3-a94f-b58017bfee6c_story.html

“Bolz-Weber’s liberal, foulmouthed articulation of Christianity speaks to fed-up believers”


44 posted on 11/04/2013 8:14:05 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: Guenevere

Also, the Orthodox Presbyterian is conservative and adheres to God’s Word.

It bothes me when news reports say the Presbyterian church has taken some position or expressed an opinion, because they always mean the PCUSA. As you say, the PCUSA is apostate and it does not represent all Presbyterians.


45 posted on 11/05/2013 9:56:42 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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