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Order! Order! A Meditation on how the mystery of order proclaims the glory of God
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10/22/2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/23/2013 3:06:21 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 10/23/2013 3:06:21 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: Mrs. Don-o; NYer

Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 10/23/2013 3:06:45 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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Ping!


3 posted on 10/23/2013 3:57:17 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: markomalley

The universe is a glittering example of chaos bound by very few rules. One look at the moon through a telescope will show what a shooting gallery it is. Ask Galileo.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 3:58:08 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: markomalley

pong


5 posted on 10/23/2013 4:03:53 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: muir_redwoods

Or remember the 4 seasons of the year, in which one of the most beautiful seasons is fall.


6 posted on 10/23/2013 5:11:58 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

Read the book “Privileged Planet” for an awe-inspiring journey through the marvelous “coincidences” that make this universe possible, and this earth the most marvelous place in it.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 5:14:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Biggirl

Yes, the seasons are a result of a random tilt most likely due to a planetary collision.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 5:15:25 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Are you missing a /s tag?


9 posted on 10/23/2013 6:01:30 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Theo

Nope, just relating a clear scientific observation.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 6:07:26 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Rather, the movements of the sun.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 6:11:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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the seasons are a result of a random tilt most likely due to a planetary collision

just relating a clear scientific observation

"The seasons are the result of a tilt," is a scientific observation. The declaration that the tilt is "random" is a philosophical judgment based not on observation but on preconceived worldview that we might as well call "religion."

"Most likely due to a planetary collision" is a hypothesis. For a hypothesis to advance beyond a "just-so story," it has to be tested and retested by experiments. No amount of "most likely," "must be," "may have, "could be," etc. advances a hypothesis beyond speculation; only testing does this.

As this example illustrates, the seepage of philosophy into science can be subtle, but it jumps up and screams, "Here I am!" at us if we're alert.

12 posted on 10/23/2013 6:24:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Tax-chick

It’s funny, all those “planetary collisions” -

the cause of planetary tilt, Uranus spinning sideways, and Venus spinning “backwards”...


13 posted on 10/23/2013 6:26:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tax-chick

It has been tested. The material returned from the moon landing show it is composed of material identical to the earths crust but not its core. The only reaonable assertion is that a large scale collision during or just prior to the Late Bombardment between the earth anda planet used object pushed off a significant portion of the earths crust.

The greater point is this; the universe is chaotic. To assert that it is an example of order is simply aughable.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 6:56:22 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Biggirl

You understand that the earth is closest to the sun in January, right?


15 posted on 10/23/2013 6:57:18 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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Your affirmation of science is an affirmation of “order.”

Your use of language is an affirmation of “order.”

If you had any integrity, your comment would have instead been, “slr lwew lrkuo awllawl awl11 o.” That would have been much more in line with your affirmation of chaos ...


16 posted on 10/23/2013 7:22:03 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Once the shortest day of each year has taken place, December 21st. Then the days begin to get longer after that.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 8:28:47 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

Veritatis Splendor!


18 posted on 10/23/2013 8:52:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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The greater point is this; the universe is chaotic.

I'm sure you realize that this is a statement of faith, rather than of science.

19 posted on 10/23/2013 10:06:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Theo

Humans can bring order. To assert nature displays order is to assert an absurdity. One look through a telescope at the lunar surface is to see the result of random bombardment. To say otherwise is similar to saying the Jackson Pollack put every paint drop just where he wanted it.


20 posted on 10/23/2013 10:07:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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