Flower Fossils 100,000,000 Years Out of Place? (article)

Institute for Creation Research ^ | Oct. 11, 2013 | Brian Thomas

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Image from ICR article.

Stratigraphic sketch from original paper - online.

Color photos of pollen grains - from original article.

[WhiskeyX]

False arguments reaching nonsensical conclusions, yet again.

[I want the USA back]

Creation was NOT thousands of years ago. The Bible is not a historical document.

[whattajoke]

the trick to these nonsensical ICR fantasies is to have SO many errors that correcting them just isn’t worth the time or effort.

Genius, really.

[GuySwell]

When I went to college at a Jesuit school, a priest explained it this way in theology class. The bible focuses on the “Who?” and the “Why?” of creation (the two most important questions). When we dwell on the “How?” and try to reconcile it with modern scientific theories of how things have changed over time, we’re missing the point. Scientific textbooks don’t try to answer the “Who?” and “Why?” and the bible isn’t really concerned with a scientific explanation of the “How?”. Therefore, the two sources are not in conflict with one another as some insist.

[Da Coyote]

Oh puuuuuleeeze....quit making we Christians who actually have good scientific training look like fools.

The earth is really older than the bible stories.

Really!

Look at it this way - would those folks a couple of thousand of years ago comprehended the term “billion”....let alone believed it? There was no purpose in giving them a physics course...the purpose of the bible is morals.

[BigEdLB]

I am all for intelligent design, but, the 6000 year old Earth has nothing of reason in it... God did many experiments over the 3.5 billion years of life on Earth. He is just a good gardener tending to one of his gardens... And when He was upset, 67 million years ago, He sent a low inside slider to the Yucatan Peninsula, and the dinosaurs were toast...

[Kip Russell]

[Theo]

I am amazed at the number of FReepers who have such little regard for the truth of Scripture, and who reject evidence that seems to challenge evolutionary theory.

[Hayride]

SCIENCE: Systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

The foe of theory of evolution is legitimate science, not the Bible. When Darwinism faces off against real science it always has and always will be knocked out cold.

Of the multitude of gaps, flaws and leaps of faith required to have faith in Darwinism, let’s look at just one tiny aspect of the overall picture. That is, apes turning into man. Where are all the missing links hiding? I say links because the gap between man and his supposed closest evolutionary relative can’t be bridged by a single link.

If the theory is correct, shouldn’t evidence abound? Why have the only missing links presented been man-made hoaxes? If the earth lasts another 2,000 years no “missing links” will be found because none ever existed.

[kurtis500]

Answer me this.... Do you think the Bible was accurate when it said people lived over 900 hundred years?

Are the people who wrote it reliable?

Is the person of Jesus they wrote about a real person in history?

Which one of these do you prefer to believe?

[count-your-change]

The beliefs of evolutionists must not be challenged. All religion, philosophy, indeed reality itself must be bent to fit the evolutionary mold.

Off with the heads of non-believers!

[MamaDearest]

Why do you believe this? What would you call 1 and 2 Chronicles? Of course the Bible has historical genre in addition to Law, Wisdom, Poetic and Prophecy. It has 66 books that include Gospels and Epistles. Have you read it? I hope you will.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

[whattajoke]

When Darwinism faces off against real science it always has and always will be knocked out cold.

LOL. Really? You folks have been saying this for 150 years and yet, it still isn't true.

let’s look at just one tiny aspect of the overall picture. That is, apes turning into man.

You suffer two problems here. One, quite simply, is you seem to not know how to Google or read or visit your local natural history museum. There are hundreds of thousands of pieces of fossil evidence, showing a rather beautiful lineage to Homo sapiens. (Incidentally, even if there were none of that, DNA evidence is even stronger.)

Two, you erroneously think that human evolution involves "apes turning into man." Man is an ape. I know that is blasphemy to you, but scientific facts don't really care about your feelings or ego. Where do creationists get their flawed idea of what evolutionary theory actually states?

If the theory is correct, shouldn’t evidence abound? Why have the only missing links presented been man-made hoaxes?

Ah. I see. You've unfortunately been lied to. Sure, there have been a few hoaxes many decades ago, almost all of which were exposed by scientists, because that's how science works. How in the world have you apparently ignored the mountains of evidence that haven't been beaten to death by the AIG/ICR PR machine?

[whattajoke]

The beliefs of evolutionists must not be challenged.

That probably sounds funny/good to you, but it's actually a direct contradiction to how science actually works. All science must be challenged. Otherwise, nothing would become theory from hypothesis. And even when a hypothesis becomes theory, it is constantly challenged.

Creationists find this strange, I know, but it's true.

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Let me know when you figure out what I mean by these graphics.

[PapaBear3625]

The Bible's record of all the major phases of world history shows no trace of a Triassic deep-time epoch and offers a better explanation for these fossils.

The Bible's record shows no trace of anybody getting eaten by a Tyrannosaurus, either.

[editor-surveyor]

Evolution has no relationship with science whatsoever.

They are in fact polar opposites.

Science requires objective evidence, evolution steps in to refute the evidence with hand waving.