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Has the Pope Taken His First Steps into Last Days Apostasy?
American Prophet ^ | September 24, 2013 | Rev. Michael Bresciani

Posted on 09/25/2013 8:27:57 PM PDT by WXRGina

Reuters and other news agencies are reporting that the Pope has capitulated on several issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraception.

The Pope’s remarks were taken from a 12,000 word interview with the Jesuit periodical, Civilta Cattolica, (Catholic Civilization) the most prominent statement reaching news agencies is his declaration that the church needs to shake off its obsession with abortion and homosexuality.

The Pope has pleased the liberal factions of the Catholic Church and sickened and worried the conservative members of the church.

Few have reported on the prophetic implications of the Pope’s remarks and with some exceptions, such as those made by Evangelist Bill Keller, most protestant news outlets remain free of op-eds or theological treatment of the Pope’s interview, at the moment.

Biblical Theology and Catholic Teachings – Always at Odds

Hundreds of traditional or patristic teachings of Catholicism are either in direct conflict with the bible or do not exist in the scriptures at all.

The list of theological discrepancies has been addressed repeatedly for centuries and there would be little room to cover them all in one short article.

What we must point out is that on two very important levels, those who stand on scripture can’t ever recognize the authority of the Pope – it has never been a matter of whether they like him or not, nor is it a matter of personal choosing.

First, Because of the Greek rendering of Matthew 16: 18, “That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” Protestants believe that Christ was referring to himself as the Rock, not Peter. This is supported by other scriptural passages, to wit:

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” (Mt 16: 18b)

Secondly, not one word in the bible speaks of ‘apostolic succession.’ It is a concoction of the Roman church, not a biblical teaching. It is very difficult even to support the teaching in view of the fact that there was no Catholic church for over 300 years after Christ came into the world. Most Catholics are totally unaware of this fact. They have been told they are the ‘first church,’ but true history betrays them.

​ Simply because these facts cannot keep the childlike faith of any Catholic from reaching the Savior does not justify or verify the truth of Catholicism’s origins. It is simply a matter of Catholics being saved or redeemed not because of their religion – but in spite of it!

The Real and Present Danger in the Discrepancies between the Papacy and the Bible

Gentle, but firm, is the only way to approach addressing the errors of Catholicism at the same time knowing that millions of Catholics are of the family of faith simply because Jesus said “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” (Jn 6: 37)

Yet, it is more than an item of curiosity or some minor theological difference; it is a dire sense of urgency and concern, especially in the last days, that causes anyone who knows scripture to make fair warning.

I have repeated this warning so often that I think my publishers may think I’ve run out of new things to say. I’ll take that chance, as opposed to risking a confrontation with my Savior for not making it as abundantly clear as possible, while there is still time.

What warning you ask!

Any religion, Catholic or other, that derives its ultimate authority from a man is subject to heresy, apostasy and error depending on the personality, the current state of mind or the evolvement of personal ideologies in that man.

Faith based solely on the scriptures, the written accounts of Christ’s teaching and his Apostles and biblical prophets cannot be altered, changed or disputed until the very last day of time. God intended this; it is his way of grounding us on a rock instead of the sinking sands of a changing and unstable world, to wit:

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.” (Mt 7: 24, 25)

Christ relegated his authority to his Apostles and their teachings too are on the same level as his. They were not mere scribes or interpreters of his will they were Holy Spirit inspired and authorized to speak as final authorities.

He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.” (Lk 10: 16)

Finally, since we will not be judged by what other men say – why would we waste time or risk being found in total error. Why not go to the source of truth and take Christ’s warning seriously?

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (Jn 12: 48)

So what did the Apostles really say about abortion, homosexuality and issues of the day?

The prophetic part of the bible contradicts the Pope’s assertion that believers are obsessed with homosexuality and abortion. In fact it warns that in the last days it is possession (demonic) that will fuel the slide into apostasy the world over.

Political correctness, floundering Pontiff’s and general acceptance of everything the bible condemns, is proof immutable, that the NWO, apostasy and the emergence of the Antichrist are well on track for the very near future. ‘Just don’t talk about it’ is the advice of fools. If the only choices are between obsession and possession it’s pretty much a no brainer.

Not only is homosexuality referred to as an abomination, to be noted, rebuked and refused as part of the church, but immoral behaviors were cause for people to be put out of the church and not allowed back in until they had fully repented. (1Co 5: 1-7) Should the perversion of same sex acts and marriage be an exception?

The idea of the Pope suggesting that we are over-talking the subject of abortions reaches to the heights of apostasy. The only voices the over two hundred million aborted babies worldwide have - is ours. Telling us to be silent is the moral equivalent of blasphemy.

After the Sandy Hook massacre of innocent children the liberals went after guns with a vengeance. Doesn’t it seem hypocritical that after 60,000,000 abortions in the U.S. and 160,000,000 abortions worldwide that telling us to pipe down is the only thing the Pope can think of to say? We will never be silent, or to borrow a phrase, you can pry my anti-abortion argument from my cold dead lips, but no other way.

The Folly of Following the Fallen

Has the Pope taken his first steps into the last day’s (apostasy) falling away? We can only hope he has not, but if this is the beginning of it, it is also the end of everything as we have known it.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” (2 Th 2: 3)


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: apostasy; christians; lastdays; popefrancis; prophecy
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To: WXRGina

Just waiting for the, "There is no God!" quote.

21 posted on 09/25/2013 8:55:46 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WXRGina

Utterly and completely WRONG, boys and girls!!!

Look at it again.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 8:55:59 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: WXRGina

If there’s no such thing as “Apostolic Succession,” and no “Catholic Church” before 300 A.D., why are there “bishops” (the Apostolic and sub-Apostolic Fathers) writing in the Second Century?


23 posted on 09/25/2013 8:57:28 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: 21twelve

It’s fine to point out the media’s lies.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 8:57:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: WXRGina

**Has the Pope Taken His First Steps into Last Days Apostasy?**

No, the following day after the interview he talked about the necessity of not performing abortions to a group of OB/gyns.

Did you see that?


25 posted on 09/25/2013 8:58:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 21twelve
He is not saying abortion, etc. is “okay”. He is saying that it is not the only thing, and not the MAIN thing.

The "MAIN" thing cannot be, without those of us who understand it, fiercely defending the lives of pre-born babies. Americans have become desensitized to the true horror of what "abortion" really is. No, there is no way to over-emphasize the evil of abortion.

26 posted on 09/25/2013 8:58:58 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 21twelve

The Pope was unwise to put it this way.

The wrongness of abortion and same-sex marriage are NOT matters of “Church teaching,” and need NOT be discussed only in the context of “Church teaching.”

The wrongness of both is knowable through an understanding of NATURAL LAW.

By insisting that they must be discussed in the context of “Church teaching,” the Pope has undermined the pro-life movement.

http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2013/reading-the-natural-signs.html


28 posted on 09/25/2013 9:01:55 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

You’re attributing to the catholics the term “bishops,” when the catholic church did not even exist when the Scriptures were written. “Bishop” does not belong to, nor was it originated by, the catholics.


29 posted on 09/25/2013 9:02:54 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
Yep. The Scriptures bear that out, and the "rapture" will be after the tribulation, and will be the second coming of the Lord. The Bible tells us so.

oh please....that nonsense sprang up sometime in the 19th or early 20th century....

30 posted on 09/25/2013 9:04:57 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: YHAOS
If we are in the last days what can I say but "Maranatha, Jesus!!!
31 posted on 09/25/2013 9:06:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: terycarl
"Yep. The Scriptures bear that out, and the "rapture" will be after the tribulation, and will be the second coming of the Lord. The Bible tells us so."

oh please....that nonsense sprang up sometime in the 19th or early 20th century....

Terry, you completely misunderstood what I wrote. I DO NOT see a "pre-tribulation" "rapture" anywhere in the Bible. I was saying that the only "rapture" of the Body of Christ is when He comes back at the end. If you re-read what I wrote, perhaps this time you will get it.

32 posted on 09/25/2013 9:08:19 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

da pope is a senile old man selling wickedness


33 posted on 09/25/2013 9:09:51 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Ted Cruz is my senator)
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To: WilliamRobert

Our righteous heroes are elsewhere, aren’t they: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3071366/posts


34 posted on 09/25/2013 9:12:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: WXRGina
You’re attributing to the catholics the term “bishops,” when the catholic church did not even exist when the Scriptures were written.

sure it did...the earliest Christians soon (in the first century) became known as Catholic (Universal)...they were therefore present in scriptural times...saved the bible, as you know it, for you....say thanks to the Catholics!!

35 posted on 09/25/2013 9:13:19 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: WilliamRobert
da pope is a senile old man selling wickedness

well lets see, the Pope is infallible in matters of faith and morals but you are here to refute that....good luck!!

36 posted on 09/25/2013 9:17:02 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: WXRGina; jodyel; Brian Kopp DPM; terycarl
If you are interested, here's a research project from several years ago where we summarized the Freeper views of how it all ends.

I am among those Christians who believe in a pre-wrath rapture (pre or mid trib):

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. - Rev 3:10

For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, - I Th 5:9

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: - 2 Th 2:7-8

God's Name is I AM.

37 posted on 09/25/2013 9:22:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thank you for the link. Bookmarked!


38 posted on 09/25/2013 9:24:25 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: terycarl
sure it did...the earliest Christians soon (in the first century) became known as Catholic (Universal)...they were therefore present in scriptural times...saved the bible, as you know it, for you....say thanks to the Catholics!!

Maybe you didn't even read Mr. Bresciani's column. He pointed out that the catholic church didn't even come into existence for several hundred years, although, no doubt 1 John 2:19 applies to those who would eventually create catholicism.

It's okay, though, because you and I will never agree. There's nothing we can do to change that.

39 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:02 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

Reuters interviewer to the Pope:

“Have you stopped beating your wife?”

With any news story, especially liberal MSM and doubly so for Reuters, VERIFY what the person being interviewed actually said and in context.

For conservative news sources, trust, but verify.

For emails with the latest incredible story forwarded by kind, loving, honorable (but all too often gullible) friends and relatives, VERIFY before forwarding them on to your entire mailing list.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:52 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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