Posted on 09/25/2013 8:27:57 PM PDT by WXRGina
Reuters and other news agencies are reporting that the Pope has capitulated on several issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraception.
The Popes remarks were taken from a 12,000 word interview with the Jesuit periodical, Civilta Cattolica, (Catholic Civilization) the most prominent statement reaching news agencies is his declaration that the church needs to shake off its obsession with abortion and homosexuality.
The Pope has pleased the liberal factions of the Catholic Church and sickened and worried the conservative members of the church.
Few have reported on the prophetic implications of the Popes remarks and with some exceptions, such as those made by Evangelist Bill Keller, most protestant news outlets remain free of op-eds or theological treatment of the Popes interview, at the moment.
Biblical Theology and Catholic Teachings Always at Odds
Hundreds of traditional or patristic teachings of Catholicism are either in direct conflict with the bible or do not exist in the scriptures at all.
The list of theological discrepancies has been addressed repeatedly for centuries and there would be little room to cover them all in one short article.
What we must point out is that on two very important levels, those who stand on scripture cant ever recognize the authority of the Pope it has never been a matter of whether they like him or not, nor is it a matter of personal choosing.
First, Because of the Greek rendering of Matthew 16: 18, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it Protestants believe that Christ was referring to himself as the Rock, not Peter. This is supported by other scriptural passages, to wit:
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (Mt 16: 18b)
Secondly, not one word in the bible speaks of apostolic succession. It is a concoction of the Roman church, not a biblical teaching. It is very difficult even to support the teaching in view of the fact that there was no Catholic church for over 300 years after Christ came into the world. Most Catholics are totally unaware of this fact. They have been told they are the first church, but true history betrays them.
Simply because these facts cannot keep the childlike faith of any Catholic from reaching the Savior does not justify or verify the truth of Catholicisms origins. It is simply a matter of Catholics being saved or redeemed not because of their religion but in spite of it!
The Real and Present Danger in the Discrepancies between the Papacy and the Bible
Gentle, but firm, is the only way to approach addressing the errors of Catholicism at the same time knowing that millions of Catholics are of the family of faith simply because Jesus said All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (Jn 6: 37)
Yet, it is more than an item of curiosity or some minor theological difference; it is a dire sense of urgency and concern, especially in the last days, that causes anyone who knows scripture to make fair warning.
I have repeated this warning so often that I think my publishers may think Ive run out of new things to say. Ill take that chance, as opposed to risking a confrontation with my Savior for not making it as abundantly clear as possible, while there is still time.
What warning you ask!
Any religion, Catholic or other, that derives its ultimate authority from a man is subject to heresy, apostasy and error depending on the personality, the current state of mind or the evolvement of personal ideologies in that man.
Faith based solely on the scriptures, the written accounts of Christs teaching and his Apostles and biblical prophets cannot be altered, changed or disputed until the very last day of time. God intended this; it is his way of grounding us on a rock instead of the sinking sands of a changing and unstable world, to wit:
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. (Mt 7: 24, 25)
Christ relegated his authority to his Apostles and their teachings too are on the same level as his. They were not mere scribes or interpreters of his will they were Holy Spirit inspired and authorized to speak as final authorities.
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me. (Lk 10: 16)
Finally, since we will not be judged by what other men say why would we waste time or risk being found in total error. Why not go to the source of truth and take Christs warning seriously?
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (Jn 12: 48)
So what did the Apostles really say about abortion, homosexuality and issues of the day?
The prophetic part of the bible contradicts the Popes assertion that believers are obsessed with homosexuality and abortion. In fact it warns that in the last days it is possession (demonic) that will fuel the slide into apostasy the world over.
Political correctness, floundering Pontiffs and general acceptance of everything the bible condemns, is proof immutable, that the NWO, apostasy and the emergence of the Antichrist are well on track for the very near future. Just dont talk about it is the advice of fools. If the only choices are between obsession and possession its pretty much a no brainer.
Not only is homosexuality referred to as an abomination, to be noted, rebuked and refused as part of the church, but immoral behaviors were cause for people to be put out of the church and not allowed back in until they had fully repented. (1Co 5: 1-7) Should the perversion of same sex acts and marriage be an exception?
The idea of the Pope suggesting that we are over-talking the subject of abortions reaches to the heights of apostasy. The only voices the over two hundred million aborted babies worldwide have - is ours. Telling us to be silent is the moral equivalent of blasphemy.
After the Sandy Hook massacre of innocent children the liberals went after guns with a vengeance. Doesnt it seem hypocritical that after 60,000,000 abortions in the U.S. and 160,000,000 abortions worldwide that telling us to pipe down is the only thing the Pope can think of to say? We will never be silent, or to borrow a phrase, you can pry my anti-abortion argument from my cold dead lips, but no other way.
The Folly of Following the Fallen
Has the Pope taken his first steps into the last days (apostasy) falling away? We can only hope he has not, but if this is the beginning of it, it is also the end of everything as we have known it.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. (2 Th 2: 3)
**I am not called to get along with Catholics or work with them**
Strange......I always thought Jesus told us to “Love our enemies, for even the pagans love their friends, so what good is that?” (paraphrasing)
Catholics have the truth as given to them through the Holy Spirit and the writers of the Bible and the first Apostles who were Bishops.
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. - Matt 24:34-42
Where exactly was I not precise?
I will not argue with you, jodyel. I will simply pray.
May God grant you His richest blessings...
Not aggrieved in any way....and no fight has been picked.
You must be born again of the Spirit and filled with the Spirit to enter the kingdom of God and some cannot bear that they are wrong. Rather than speak to deaf ears, I prefer to speak to those willing to listen and entertain the possibility that what I say is truth...rather than puff themselves up with pride about their religion and its teachings. Many members on this site have been laboring for far longer than I have telling Catholics the true Gospel and have been met with the same treatment.
If all Catholics want is what they already know or think they know, then what is the point of further exchanges? They already have what they want and won’t listen to anything further from me. Jesus did not waste precious time sticking around trying to convince the rich young ruler to follow Him. He said it once and the rich young ruler, knowing exactly what Jesus meant and what was required of him to follow, went away saddened. He loved his wealth and his lifestyle more than he loved Christ and was not willing to leave it for Him. And this is what I charge Catholics with. Your love for your church and your sacraments and your rituals and all else in this dead faith are more important to you than following Christ. How many of you would leave it behind to know Jesus and Jesus only?
Mark 10:17-27
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
The Rich Young Ruler
17 As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. 19 You know the commandments, Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother. 20 And he said to Him, Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up. 21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me. 22 But at these words [a]he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.”
Do Catholics hunger and thirst for Jesus and want to know Him so badly that they are willing to leave all, sell all, abandon all, and follow Him?
Thanks for your post,
jodyel
And you, Sum.
let's see now, we can either believe the 2,000 year old Catholic Church which Christ personally founded, or we can believe you.......I think I'll play the odds and choose the church.....you should try attending a Catholic Mass someday.....couldn't possibly hurt you since they aren't Christian but just a cult of some ssort, and it might enlighten you as to what the Mass really is.
Nevertheless, the word “RAPTURE” is not in the Bible.
Loving one’s enemy and leaving him in spiritual bondage is not love at all.
We are called, even unto death, to preach Christ and Christ only.
God bless you,
jodyel
After reading the Bible perhaps a 100 times, and studying it’s contents for 33 years, I can say with absolute certainty that the catholic church is not teaching “the faith once delivered to the saints,” and not teaching what Jesus Christ taught as well. It’s a bankrupt religion providing the masses with false hope, and in reality leading them to hell.
you'll have to work with the Gregorian calander I guess and come up with an exact date....figure out what year it was when Christ said to Simon Bar-jona....Thou art peter and upon this rock I build My church.....that should bring you right to the date!!!
How do you know what the Catholic Church teaches if you are not a Catholic?
Are you just taking this on someone’s word? Or believing something you read in a comic pamplet somewhere?
let's see now....Jesus was God (I and the Father are one).....God created all things created. God therefore created the Islamists, Jesus therefore created them....and they have nothing in common???
your immaturity might have shown itself there.
No one can address “all Catholics” just like we can’t say that “all whites” own guns, or “all blacks” live in shanties.
Generalities usually don’t work with readoning too well. My opinion.
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